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I see...so we're no longer allowed to speak on behalf of those who cannot speak for themselves. Where did you come down on the Terry Schiavo case?

What a 15-year-old does to a fetus which has developed for 10 weeks doesn't affect me, unless of course I'm the fetus. Unfortunately, kids can't really talk until months after they're born, and can't reason until about 7. So, I suppose, if she kills her 6 year old child because it's not smart enough to make it's own case against, that's OK too...we can't, as a decent society, assume that children want little more than to be happy, which is tough to do with doctors trying to kill them mid-term.

At what point is it *not* okay with you for a doctor to take a scissors to the base of a fetus's skull, make a gash, and suck out it's brain with a vacuum? 20 weeks? 16 weeks?
I have said it before and will firmly say it again. Lightbulbs do not have brains.

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I have said it before and will firmly say it again. Lightbulbs do not have brains.
Very true...kill all the lightbulbs you want.
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I see...so we're no longer allowed to speak on behalf of those who cannot speak for themselves. Where did you come down on the Terry Schiavo case?

What a 15-year-old does to a fetus which has developed for 10 weeks doesn't affect me, unless of course I'm the fetus. Unfortunately, kids can't really talk until months after they're born, and can't reason until about 7. So, I suppose, if she kills her 6 year old child because it's not smart enough to make it's own case against, that's OK too...we can't, as a decent society, assume that children want little more than to be happy, which is tough to do with doctors trying to kill them mid-term.

At what point is it *not* okay with you for a doctor to take a scissors to the base of a fetus's skull, make a gash, and suck out it's brain with a vacuum? 20 weeks? 16 weeks?
What about the puppies and kitties? At what point is it OK to kill puppies, kitties, lambs, cattle, fish? Death is a part of life, and life begins at birth. If you want to think otherwise, I fully support your right to do so. I have no desire to turn my personal beliefs into legislation, and will vehemently oppose anyone who wants to do the same.

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That about covers it, including the lightbulb part.
The state of CA might actually be able to make that argument.

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And every nightlight burns even less. But those damned toasters are having an uprising.

This is now the tangential, non logical , non connected comparator thread now, right?
Nossir. Merely pointing-out tha in the total energy budget by which most of us live, incandescent bulbs are a small contributor. If we want to have an effect it would be a greater impact to make private ownership of transportation illegal, make A/C illegal (you wont die if you sweat), and make air travel illegal except for government emergencies. Also, limit births and private ownership of land and wealth.

that will just about straighten-out all the problems and make a nice, well-ordered society run by rationalists.

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let's make it a law that all cars get a minimum of 22 mpg.

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let's make it a law that all cars get a minimum of 22 mpg.
Shoot, what's so great about 22 MPG? Lets make it a law to get 100 MPG.

Let's pass a law concerning that Pi thingie, too. It just ain't raight.

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What a 15-year-old does to a fetus which has developed for 10 weeks doesn't affect me, unless of course I'm the fetus. Unfortunately, kids can't really talk until months after they're born, and can't reason until about 7. So, I suppose, if she kills her 6 year old child because it's not smart enough to make it's own case against, that's OK too...we can't, as a decent society, assume that children want little more than to be happy, which is tough to do with doctors trying to kill them mid-term.
Masturbation is preconceptive murder. Let's give jerk-offs the chair.

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What about the puppies and kitties? At what point is it OK to kill puppies, kitties, lambs, cattle, fish? Death is a part of life, and life begins at birth. If you want to think otherwise, I fully support your right to do so. I have no desire to turn my personal beliefs into legislation, and will vehemently oppose anyone who wants to do the same.
Not another animal on the planet can discern between right and wrong. If you're too thick today to honestly segregate advocacy of abortion in any fashion from the trials and tribulations of animal husbandry, or at least state the conditions under which you find it acceptable to perform manslaughter, I'd recommend you replace the keyboard and mouse with a beer and a Barcalounger for the day.

There's a nice, warm, fuzzy blanket people wrap around their heads when it comes to abortion. The term is "Pro Choice", which when you get down to it, is "Pro Baby Murder". It's not like they're for the choice between a mother raising her newborn child and putting that child up for adoption - they're for the choice between a mother giving birth to her child, or putting it to an early death.

I'm a bit more moderate than most, because I don't necessarily consider this a religious point of view and I think it's irrational to rule out abortions as methods of emergency surgery to protect the health of a mother when premature delivery of the child isn't feasible. There need to be guidelines, set by doctors, that clearly dileniate the conditions and tests that need to be met so that the differences between abortion and murder are crystal clear.

Anyone not in favor of protecting a mother's health in such circumstances just isn't being reasonable. Anyone else is kidding themselves - worse - they're engaging in a cruel and inhumane form of intellectual dishonesty - by proclaming that abortion is OK because "who am I to tell a woman what to do with her body". That's an asinine commentary made by people who aren't thinking things through very well. We're not talking about breast augmentation surgery or installing a fishing rod for the man in the boat - conditions where *only* the woman is affected by the consequences. Pro-life advocates aren't interested in telling women what they can or cannot do with their bodies...just what they cannot do to the bodies of their children, in a manner consistent with the tomes of existing laws on the subject of child protection.

If you don't think a developing fetus is alive or that convenience abortions are wrong, *you* scrub in and perform an abortion on a 14 year old girl, whose parents don't even know what's going on thanks to bastard lawmakers who don't think it's a parent's business if their daughter gets an abortion, all because having a baby would be, like, a real bummer....then let me know how well you sleep that night.
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