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All you right wing nuts hope for a chance to destroy this democracy. Dream on, dipshit.
Are you really that monomaniacal, self-absorbed, and thick-headed?

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Oh, cut the crap Botnst. To you guys, the government is always bad and always wrong. Look at your pal Bruce, he rejects the whole idea the Federal Government works for the people. I am sure you do as well, its mantra to you guys.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Just because you think the people control the military, that doesn't make it so. I've tried to point out a few VERY SIMPLE examples because I know that is all you can understand, but apparently they were to complex for you anyway. Let me make this one last (hopefully) example:
If the Department of Defense told the Army to surround your house, and shoot your butt if you looked out a window, do you think that they might do just that?
If your United States Senator walked up and said to the commander: " I am Senator so and so and I am directing you to leave the area. "After checking with his superior, the commander would very likely leave the area.
If your States Governor did the same thing, the chances of them leaving are much slimmer because the Governor isn't a Federal Officer. There is still a good to excellent chance that if you looked out a window, you would be dead meat.
So what are you going to do? Wait for the next election and vote for a Senator that will cover your ass, or look out the window?
If you don't like what the Army is doing all you can do is elect a new government and hope that they do what you want them to do. If they don't you're screwed, you have NO control............. Now do you understand that?


From you and FoTL stating nonsense like this:

"So, you disagree with the idea that the military works for the people of the US?"

"but it follows that if the military takes direction from the Federal government, and the Federal government is "for, by and of the people", then the military should be at the command of the people (indirectly of course)."
Foam on. You still have not refuted anything I've said, and your examples have no bearing on my point.

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Oh, cut the crap Botnst. To you guys, the government is always bad and always wrong. Look at your pal Bruce, he rejects the whole idea the Federal Government works for the people. I am sure you do as well, its mantra to you guys.
Your reading comprehension sucks as bad as you do. What I said was that the military works for the government, NOT for "We the people." Moron.
The government works for whoever will get them re-elected.
Damn you really DO have your head up your ass don't you. You should have a plexiglas stomach put in, at least then you can see where your going, might help your reading a little bit as well................

"Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon, the pigeon knocks over all the pieces, on the board and then struts around like it won the game."
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Foam on. You still have not refuted anything I've said, and your examples have no bearing on my point.
Believe what ever you like, it don't matter to me.................

"Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon, the pigeon knocks over all the pieces, on the board and then struts around like it won the game."
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"They have gun control in Cuba. They have universal health care in Cuba. So why do they want to come here?"
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Believe what ever you like, it don't matter to me.................
I know. I prefer to base my "beliefs" on facts and reason.

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Oh, cut the crap Botnst. To you guys, the government is always bad and always wrong. Look at your pal Bruce, he rejects the whole idea the Federal Government works for the people. I am sure you do as well, its mantra to you guys.
Disparaging generalizations about people is your hallmark. Redneck.

Oh cut the crap, FTL, you know you guys believe the government is always right whenever the Democrats run it and wrong for anybody else. Look at your pals Jim Smith and Old300D who, like you, love everything about the Democrats. It's a mantra with you guys.

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I know. I prefer to base my "beliefs" on facts and reason.
Hahaha!!!

Who brought down the Twin Towers? What hit the Pentagon, "Mr Facts?"

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Who brought down the Twin Towers? What hit the Pentagon, "Mr Facts?"

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I choose to open my eyes. You are free to keep yours closed.
Uh oh your one of those conspiracy theorist? Guess it WAS the government that caused 9/11........ I have been to those sites....... kooks anyone??


Its great to look at all angles but come on now.......does the truth hurt?

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