I don't believe he's a fascist, just a frightened old man. Saw the same thing happen to my grandpa and my dad seems to be heading in the same direction.
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^I second that whole heartedly, after watching my grandparents and now my parents; fear seeps in as your body becomes fragile and your mind slower. You start to feel vulnerable to many things since your capacities are diminished. The alternatives are worse though...^
Regardless of where you stand on the issue of the U.S.
involvement in Iraq , here's a sobering statistic. There has been a
monthly average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theatre of operations during
the last 22 months, and a total of 2,112 deaths. That gives a firearm
death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.
The firearm death rate in Washington D.C. is 80.6 per 100,000 persons for
the same period
That means that you are about 25% more likely to be shot and killed in the
U.S. Capital than you are in Iraq ..
Conclusion: The U.S. should pull out of Washington
I'm sorry Ed but you are a dumbass. There are about 550k people in Washington DC. At a murder rate of 80 per 100k per month that roughly equates to 440 people dead a month. No way in hell is that even close to accurate. That's an average of 14 people a day. Ridiculous.
Noone even mentions that the populations of these cities are not all armed with M-16s either. I'd imagine the rate would be much lower if everyone were.
As someone who HAS SERVED, I can say there are wars that you fight and wars that you do not. Iraq was never a war to be fought. There was no compelling reason and to continue with it is beyond moronic. IF the Weepublicans had the best and brightest minds of their party and hand picked experts develop the war plan, the second war plan and now the third war plan, that says volumes about the best and brightest of the Weepublicans.
All we are getting is another verse of the same song.
[quote=mcbear]As someone who HAS SERVED, I can say there are wars that you fight and wars that you do not. Iraq was never a war to be fought. ... /QUOTE]
Asserting your belief as fact is a childish form of argument.
Matters not who has served and who hasn't. All that matters is that we're citizens and voters. You're boys & girls won the recent election. The course for the next two years is very much in tehir hands, if they choose to exercsize it. If not, prepare for 2 more years of hateful whining from your team. that's one burden they've proven amply able to undertake.
As someone who HAS SERVED, I can say there are wars that you fight and wars that you do not. Iraq was never a war to be fought. ... /QUOTE]
Asserting your belief as fact is a childish form of argument.
Matters not who has served and who hasn't. All that matters is that we're citizens and voters. You're boys & girls won the recent election. The course for the next two years is very much in tehir hands, if they choose to exercsize it. If not, prepare for 2 more years of hateful whining from your team. that's one burden they've proven amply able to undertake.
No, asserting my belief as my OPINION [however with time in Viet Nam and the USAFA and War College, a somewhat informed opinion]. Not childish at all. Iraq was never a war to be fought, my opinion and that of most of the world.
No, asserting my belief as my OPINION [however with time in Viet Nam and the USAFA and War College, a somewhat informed opinion]. Not childish at all. Iraq was never a war to be fought, my opinion and that of most of the world.
Your second paragraph makes no sense.
Opinions -- Hubris comes from believing that an opinion is fact.
I agree that the second paragraph makes no sense, but probably for different reasons.
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Never met a veteran who actually had to kill time and again who liked it or recommended it for anyone.
And just how many of those vets said they wouldn't do it again if they had to? There is one hell of a difference between wanting to and doing it because it has to be done to protect yourself and those that you care about.
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I don't believe he's a fascist, just a frightened old man. Saw the same thing happen to my grandpa and my dad seems to be heading in the same direction.
You may be right, I may be frightened like your dad, but he knows a lot more about what's going on in the world because he's seen it before, and knows the end result. You on the other hand don't have a clue, but of course you already know it all, don't you salesman?
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No, asserting my belief as my OPINION [however with time in Viet Nam and the USAFA and War College, a somewhat informed opinion]. Not childish at all. Iraq was never a war to be fought, my opinion and that of most of the world.
Your OPINION may be more informed then some of the above, but it's still only an OPINION.
As far as the rest of the world is concerned we only know what the press has allowed us to know. They seem to have a lock on most of the information, and is there any question as to which way they lean, and which way they want the U.S. to go?
As someone who HAS SERVED, I can say there are wars that you fight and wars that you do not. Iraq was never a war to be fought. ...
Asserting your belief as fact is a childish form of argument.
Matters not who has served and who hasn't. All that matters is that we're citizens and voters. You're boys & girls won the recent election. The course for the next two years is very much in tehir hands, if they choose to exercsize it. If not, prepare for 2 more years of hateful whining from your team. that's one burden they've proven amply able to undertake.
Have you been drinking? It's rather early in the day isn't it?
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