Originally Posted by FeelTheLove
North Korea has been a fiasco. The idea of 'six nations talks' as been widely criticized as the reason why, with Bush refusing to negotiate directly with the North Koreans. Also, were you drunk the week the North Koreans exploded an atomic bomb? That was a sure sign of success. And India? Who gives a fuck.
North Korea has
been a fiasco, mainly because the guy running the show over there (Kim Jung Il, PGA Golfer) is totally off his rocker. As is Ahmadinejad. As is Chavez. The ones who aren't crazy sure as hell have plenty to hide, and we're "fucking it up for everybody" by assuming elected officials will be straight shooters. Naive, to be sure, but consider this - no matter what Rice wants to do, ultimately it's the President that she reports to. It's 43 who says whether or not we talk to North Korea...it's 43 who sets the conditions. Rice could trump him, or blast him in the press, but she's far too smart (and classy) a person to do that. Nobody in politics bites the hand that feeds them or burns a bridge, nor should they.
Let's travel back in time about 6 years or so, and look at a very basic but very telling event - George W. Bush decided to run with Dick Cheney as his Vice-Presidential candidate. Why was that? It was because Cheney's experience would help fill in his own gaps. In fact, Bush's first term cabinet looked like the Ivy League Civil Service hall-of-fame. As the story goes, he was smart enough to know what he didn't know, and found the best people he could to fill in his weaknesses. Good leaders find good people, and let them do their jobs with the implicit trust that they'll do their jobs well. If you can't trust someone implicitly to do something important for you, then you don't hire them.
Sprinkle in a little bit of "power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely", and mix with Washington D.C. - the world's ultimate home court advantage - and what we likely have is a very good, honest person who became hamstrung by the people he trusted failing to live up to their promise and promises. George Bush never promised anyone that he's the smartest guy in the room. He is a good and decent person, and a great leader borne from a family of leaders. He was the right person for the job in a pre-9/11 world, and while his personal response to 9/11 was genuine and inspirational (he had Rosie O'Donnell in tears for Chrissake), it seems that dominoes started to fall as the entire nation & congress were caught up in the natural cycle of grief.
Call us whatever you want, but Conservatives like myself recoil at the naysayers frankly because we're a little bitter - not because of critics being right, but because they have valid points for the wrong reasons. We are probably most bitter that W's vision for the nation went largely unrealized, and that what appear in hindsight to be so many wrong turns ultimately were taken. We're bitter that this very good man, ultimately, may not be remembered as a great man, and that it's very unlikely that Bush the man is to blame for anything worse than implicitly trusting people who lost their way. Republicans are coming out of the "Depression" stage and entering the "Testing" stage, maybe a little more slowly than Democrats or the American mainstream.
Time for a group hug.