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Blumenthal is a know liar and wife beater. S/He is also the expert on covering up questionable behavior of his own and Bill Clinton's. He told Clinton how to lie about Lewinsky. He wasn't very successful w/ that either. He has been the subject of more than one grand jury investigation, and has been totally discredited as a journalist.

Typical right wing tactic, nothing to refute the arguments, so they attack the person. Scooter Libby's children, the lot of you.

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Typical Democrat Party operative response: attack the military while engaged overseas. First, vote to send them in. Then blame the military for fighting to win. Finally, undermine the military for political gain at home.

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Here is another tactic: vote out the one's that sent them. How'd you like it?

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Here is another tactic: vote out the one's that sent them. How'd you like it?
That is the one method that I fully support. I wouldn't like it but I would definitely support it.

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Typical Democrat Party operative response: attack the military while engaged overseas. First, vote to send them in. Then blame the military for fighting to win. Finally, undermine the military for political gain at home.

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No one is attacking the military for fighting to win, Bot. That is a typical GOP tactic to confuse the audience. Not being for the war does not equal being against the military. In this case the issue is the civillian, elected government's failure to perform. It has wasted valuable American military lives, resources and treasure, while murdering Iraqi's directly as well as creating circumstances encouraging Iraqis to murder Iraqis and being unable to control the resulting chaos. It has undermined America in the eyes of the rest of the world. And all for a con job. Keep your eye on the target here. I know it is easy to be confused and get drawn into the shell game the administration is playing with the American citizens. Jim
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No one is attacking the military for fighting to win, Bot. That is a typical GOP tactic to confuse the audience. Not being for the war does not equal being against the military. In this case the issue is the civillian, elected government's failure to perform. It has wasted valuable American military lives, resources and treasure, while murdering Iraqi's directly as well as creating circumstances encouraging Iraqis to murder Iraqis and being unable to control the resulting chaos. It has undermined America in the eyes of the rest of the world. And all for a con job. Keep your eye on the target here. I know it is easy to be confused and get drawn into the shell game the administration is playing with the American citizens. Jim
Thank-you James. You echo my thoughts (and those of the majority of Britons regarding our involvement in Iraq). Nice to see you can swim in the deep end too.
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No one is attacking the military for fighting to win, . Jim
You could have fooled me...

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Thank-you James. You echo my thoughts (and those of the majority of Britons regarding our involvement in Iraq). Nice to see you can swim in the deep end too.
Could it just be that you've gone off the deep end, again?

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You could have fooled me...
The word "fool" is operative in your case.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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No one is attacking the military for fighting to win, Bot. That is a typical GOP tactic to confuse the audience. Not being for the war does not equal being against the military. In this case the issue is the civillian, elected government's failure to perform. It has wasted valuable American military lives, resources and treasure, while murdering Iraqi's directly as well as creating circumstances encouraging Iraqis to murder Iraqis and being unable to control the resulting chaos. It has undermined America in the eyes of the rest of the world. And all for a con job. Keep your eye on the target here. I know it is easy to be confused and get drawn into the shell game the administration is playing with the American citizens. Jim
Exactly.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Frank Rich examines 'why Dick Cheney cracked up'

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In his latest Sunday New York Times column, Frank Rich examines "why Dick Cheney cracked up."

"In the days since Dick Cheney lost it on CNN, our nation's armchair shrinks have had a blast," Rich writes. "The vice president who boasted of 'enormous successes' in Iraq and barked 'hogwash' at the congenitally mild Wolf Blitzer has been roundly judged delusional, pathologically dishonest or just plain nuts."

(A video clip and full transcript of the Jan. 24 Wolf Blitzer/Dick Cheney interview can be found at this link)

Rich adds, "But what else is new? We identified those diagnoses long ago. The more intriguing question is what ignited this particularly violent public flare-up."

Rich believes it has to do with the fact that the vice president may have to testify under oath at the CIA leak trial, where his former aide I. Lewis Libby stands accused of obstructing justice and lying.

"Cheney was the hands-on manager of the 24/7 campaign of press manipulation and high-stakes character assassination, with Libby as his chief hatchet man," Rich argues. "Though Libby's lawyers are now arguing that their client was a sacrificial lamb thrown to the feds to shield [President Bush's Deputy Chief of Staff Karl] Rove, Libby actually was -- and still is -- a stooge for the vice president."

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The answer can be found in the timing of the CNN interview, which was conducted the day after the start of the perjury trial of Cheney's former top aide, Scooter Libby. The vice president's on-camera crackup reflected his understandable fear that a White House cover-up was crumbling. He knew that sworn testimony in a Washington courtroom would reveal still more sordid details about how the administration lied to take the country into war in Iraq. He knew that those revelations could cripple the White House's current campaign to escalate that war and foment apocalyptic scenarios about Iran. Scariest of all, he knew that he might yet have to testify under oath himself.

Cheney, in other words, understands the danger this trial poses to the White House even as some of Washington remains oblivious. From the start, the capital has belittled the Joseph and Valerie Wilson affair as "a tempest in a teapot," as David Broder of The Washington Post reiterated just five months ago....


The explanation for the hysteria has long been obvious. The White House was terrified about being found guilty of a far greater crime than outing a CIA officer: lying to the nation to hype its case for war. When Joseph Wilson, an obscure retired diplomat, touched that raw nerve, all the president's men panicked because they knew Wilson's modest finding in Africa was the tip of a far larger iceberg. They knew that there was still far more damning evidence of the administration's WMD lies lurking in the bowels of the bureaucracy.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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