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so in conclusion: it's cool to just spew tons of shit into the atmosphere, right?



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How bout this? Everybody stop breathing for a day and see what that does.

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Some fucked up attitude we have. So when is a good time to do something about it?

I guess according to Bruce R and this Administrations, we won't do jack since we don't understand enough and most importantly, won't be around for another hundred years to see the impact. Oh, I forget the impressive Environmental policies this Administrations have in place. How forgetful of me, I must have been breathing in too much CO2.

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BruceR, you may not have a clue, but the evidence is fairly stark. As you can see in the data I posted, the CO2 levels are off the scale for "normal" cycles over the past 400,000 years. You bringing up stuff saying temperature has been stable over the past 2000 years means nothing in this context.

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CO2 is a natually occuring gas, as you might know......... You are saying that man is the cause of "excessive" amounts, so:

( 1 ) Prove that there has never been this level of CO2 in the atmosphere.

( 2 ) Show how man is the only source of the "above normal" amount, and by the way show just what the "normal" maximum and minimum is.......

( 3 ) Show how nature could not have caused this excessive amount.

Show me that, and you have my undivided attention.
1) ice samples and soil samples routinely prove it

2) rate of increase found in ice and soil can be statistically tied to emissions

3) Stick your mouth on your exhaust pipe

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CO2 is a natually occuring gas, as you might know......... You are saying that man is the cause of "excessive" amounts, so:

( 1 ) Prove that there has never been this level of CO2 in the atmosphere.

( 2 ) Show how man is the only source of the "above normal" amount, and by the way show just what the "normal" maximum and minimum is.......

( 3 ) Show how nature could not have caused this excessive amount.

Show me that, and you have my undivided attention.
1) ice samples and soil samples routinely prove it

2) rate of increase found in ice and soil can be statistically tied to emissions

3) Stick your mouth on your exhaust pipe

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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The coupe de gras for Bushism, delivered by one of the top conservatives of his own party, as Virginia Sen Warner decides he doesn't want to go down in 2008 like Macacca did in 2006. This is political death for Chimpy, and the beginning of the end of the Iraq War:


Key senators agree on Iraq resolution - Politics - MSNBC.com

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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How bout this? Everybody stop breathing for a day and see what that does.
GS, As usual you are the man of common sense and reason, I agree with your proposal except for 1 change. Let's do it per hemisphere, all in the Western Hemisphere the first day and the 2nd day the Eastern Hemisphere will follow in the example of the white man in the West.
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BruceR, you may not have a clue, but the evidence is fairly stark. As you can see in the data I posted, the CO2 levels are off the scale for "normal" cycles over the past 400,000 years. You bringing up stuff saying temperature has been stable over the past 2000 years means nothing in this context.
Excuse me, but the excerpts are from the site you posted. Man has only been around doing things in a serious way for the last 2,000 years. If what I pointed out "means nothing in this context" then what you're saying is what man has done means nothing.................
There is evidence that something is happening, I will not argue with that comment, but to blame man as the only factor, or even try to call man the primary factor, is just plain ridicules.

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1) ice samples and soil samples routinely prove it

2) rate of increase found in ice and soil can be statistically tied to emissions

3) Stick your mouth on your exhaust pipe
1) Prove what, that there is excessive CO2? Fine now show where it comes from. Show that none of the volcanoes that have been popping off have contributed anything to the CO2 glut. Volcanoes are only ONE source, there are others.

2) Again you say tied to emissions, but to what or who's emissions? SHOW ME !

3) Stick your exaust pipe up your ass, no wait a minute, you would probably enjoy that too much...............

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