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It appears you like being lied to........Is that true?

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The last attack on American soil was a few months ago. The British stopped it.
Okay, speak slowly. Explain to me what attack you are talking about AND how can you stop an attack that already took place? Do you have an Astroglide time machine, my democratic friend?

If you are speaking of the potential attack the Brits stopped, then how did they do that? At the best of my recollection, the U.S. and Britain have both stopped attacks due to the sharing of information gathered by both governments using means that you are so adamantly opposed to.

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Do you think before you type, or does your brain always run in idle?

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Okay, speak slowly. Explain to me what attack you are talking about AND how can you stop an attack that already took place? Do you have an Astroglide time machine, my democratic friend?

If you are speaking of the potential attack the Brits stopped, then how did they do that? At the best of my recollection, the U.S. and Britain have both stopped attacks due to the sharing of information gathered by both governments using means that you are so adamantly opposed to.

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I would call the organizing of a conspiracy that almost brought down enough planes to kill 2,000 Americans an 'attack". What do you call it, crochet? And as has been stated here numerous times, no one on the left is opposed to wiretapping foreign nationals, it's American citizens, who are under the protection of the Bill of Rights, we have a problem with being wiretapped. I think the Libby trial has shown your fascist friends will stop at nothing to destroy Enemies of The Party, so we all know the real purpose of the wiretaps on American citizens is to blackmail political opponents. And be careful, I think you are choking on your Koolaid.

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I think the Libby trial has shown your fascist friends will stop at nothing to destroy Enemies of The Party, so we all know the real purpose of the wiretaps on American citizens is to blackmail political opponents. And be careful, I think you are choking on your Koolaid.
Poor FoTL is choking on his own paranoia, he doesn't need any Kool-Aid. Not that he hasn't swallowed enough of his own partys grape flavored packaged treat....

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You lost me -- are you referring to the so-called terrorist plot foiled by the British (airplanes, liquid explosive?)? The one that was later described as a fraud?

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Yes, but I did not know it was exposed as a fraud. Are you sure? I was under the impression a number of people had been arrested. I know the one in Miami was exposed as hyperbole.

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You lost me -- are you referring to the so-called terrorist plot foiled by the British (airplanes, liquid explosive?)? The one that was later described as a fraud?
Don't tell me that FoTL got something wrong????????? The sky must be falling...

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There were several arrests, but many were later released. The whole thing was little more than a political ploy. The Bush administration pressured the British to release the information before they were ready, and the British subsequently admitted that the plotters were not nearly as serious or well-planned as they had originally suggested. IOW, they probably busted a bunch of guys talking shit in a bar somewhere. --> more hyperbole.

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Poor FoTL is choking on his own paranoia, he doesn't need any Kool-Aid. Not that he hasn't swallowed enough of his own partys grape flavored packaged treat....
Probably not as much treat as your mother did when she worked in the French Quarter.

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