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DId any of you participate? Crowds on both coasts protest Iraq war

Crowds on both coasts protest Iraq war

WASHINGTON - Convinced this is their moment, tens of thousands marched Saturday in an anti-war demonstration linking military families, ordinary people and an icon of the Vietnam protest movement in a spirited call to get out of Iraq.

Celebrities, a half-dozen lawmakers and protesters from distant states rallied in the capital under a sunny sky, seizing an opportunity to press their cause with a Congress restive on the war and a country that has turned against the conflict.
Marching with them was Jane Fonda, in what she said was her first anti-war demonstration in 34 years.
"Silence is no longer an option," Fonda said to cheers from the stage on the National Mall. The actress once derided as "Hanoi Jane" by conservatives for her stance on Vietnam said she had held back from activism so as not to be a distraction for the Iraq anti-war movement, but needed to speak out now.
The rally on the Mall unfolded peacefully, although about 300 protesters tried to rush the Capitol, running up the grassy lawn to the front of the building. Police on motorcycles tried to stop them, scuffling with some and barricading entrances.
Protesters chanted "Our Congress" as their numbers grew and police faced off against them. Demonstrators later joined the masses marching from the Mall, around Capitol Hill and back.
About 50 demonstrators blocked a street near the Capitol for about 30 minutes, but they were dispersed without arrests.
United for Peace and Justice, a coalition group sponsoring the protest, had hoped 100,000 would come. They claimed even more afterward, but police, who no longer give official estimates, said privately the crowd was smaller than 100,000.
In California, smaller rallies were held in San Francisco, Los Angeles and Sacramento.
At the rally, 12-year-old Moriah Arnold stood on her toes to reach the microphone and tell the crowd: "Now we know our leaders either lied to us or hid the truth. Because of our actions, the rest of the world sees us as a bully and a liar."
The sixth-grader from Harvard, Mass., organized a petition drive at her school against the war that has killed more than 3,000 U.S. service-members, including seven whose deaths were reported Saturday.
More Hollywood celebrities showed up at the demonstration than buttoned-down Washington typically sees in a month.
Actor Sean Penn said lawmakers will pay a price in the 2008 elections if they do not take firmer action than to pass a nonbinding resolution against the war, the course Congress is now taking.
"If they don't stand up and make a resolution as binding as the death toll, we're not going to be behind those politicians," he said. Actors Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins also spoke.
Fonda was a lightning rod in the Vietnam era for her outspoken opposition to that war and her advocacy from Hanoi at the height of that conflict. Sensitive to the old wounds, she made it a point to thank the active-duty service-members, veterans and Gold Star mothers who attended the rally.
She drew parallels to the Vietnam War, citing "blindness to realities on the ground, hubris ... thoughtlessness in our approach to rebuilding a country we've destroyed." But she noted that this time, veterans, soldiers and their families increasingly and vocally are against the Iraq war.
The House Judiciary Committee chairman, Rep. John Conyers (news, bio, voting record), threatened to use congressional spending power to try to stop the war. "George Bush has a habit of firing military leaders who tell him the Iraq war is failing," he said, looking out at the masses. "He can't fire you." Referring to Congress, the Michigan Democrat added: "He can't fire us.

"The founders of our country gave our Congress the power of the purse because they envisioned a scenario exactly like we find ourselves in today. Not only is it in our power, it is our obligation to stop Bush."
White House spokesman Trey Bohn responded that Conyers "needs to learn the difference between fact and fable, between a soundbite and a slur." He said Conyers' "assertion that the president fires generals with whom he disagrees is flat wrong."
On the stage rested a coffin covered with a U.S. flag and a pair of military boots, symbolizing American war dead. On the Mall stood a large bin filled with tags bearing the names of Iraqis who have died.
A small contingent of active-duty service members attended the rally, wearing civilian clothes because military rules forbid them from protesting in uniform.
Air Force Staff Sgt. Tassi McKee, 26, an intelligence specialist at Fort Meade, Md., said she joined the Air Force because of patriotism, travel and money for college. "After we went to Iraq, I began to see through the lies," she said.
In the crowd, signs recalled the November elections that defeated the Republican congressional majority in part because of President Bush's Iraq policy. "I voted for peace," one said.
"I've just gotten tired of seeing widows, tired of seeing dead Marines," said Vincent DiMezza, 32, wearing a dress Marine uniform from his years as a sergeant. A Marine aircraft mechanic from 1997 to 2002, he did not serve in Iraq or Afghanistan.
About 40 people staged a counter-protest, including Army Cpl. Joshua Sparling, 25, who lost his leg to a bomb in Iraq.
He said the anti-war protesters, especially those who are veterans or who are on active duty, "need to remember the sacrifice we have made and what our fallen comrades would say if they were alive."
Bush reaffirmed his commitment to his planned troop increase in a phone conversation Saturday with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. The president was in Washington for the weekend. He is often is out of town during big protest days.
"He understands that Americans want to see a conclusion to the war in Iraq and the new strategy is designed to do just that," said Gordon Johndroe, a spokesman for the National Security Council. Protest organizers said the crowd included people who came on 300 buses from 40 states.

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I see old Hanoi Jane was there with all her communist friends.
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I see old Hanoi Jane was there with all her communist friends.
The usual suspects. Just not very many people.
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The usual suspects. Just not very many people.
Yeah you know Dave I am finding it hard to believe that many people oppose the Iraq war. What is the population count in the States now, 250 million people but how many actually showed up on both coasts for this protest, a few thousand? Even here, at BW, so many talk the talk but when it comes to taking time off from work and spending money to support what they beleive in then that is all it is, talk. If some really believed what they wrote wouldn't they have taken a few days off jumped a plane and went to support the movement, instead some are sitting at home and writing here and even some I heard went to Hawaii for a holiday instead of supporting the anti-war movement which at that I am shocked, shocked I tell you.
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I do not support the war.
But I also know that standing with 10's of thousands of people is not going to do a damn thing about what this President does.
So why waste my time?
I am already %100 T&P from the military, so my brothers know they have my support in defending Iraq...we are NOT defending the US thats for sure. Some people say.""well look there hasnt been an attack on US soil since 9/11" & before that was what. I believe it was what..Pearl Harbor. So why would anyone be supprised that there hasnt been another one? We are attacking each other & the country is eating itself away from within, so why should they feel the need to attack again? We are doing a damn good job of destroying the nation ourselves. Along with another country that had nothing to do with 9/11.
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There will be more protests today.

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Well Jane Fonda was truly hot in Barbarella but I would have turned her down if I had the choice between her and ELizabeth Taylor when she was in the movie Giant, God she beautiful during that time.
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Thank god for the Internet. Now people can jump up and down and scream from the comfort of their own homes. Want some serious anti-Iraq invasion displays? Re-institute the draft.

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Anti war? Pure bullshit! You can see the hate right here on the ot from the peace donkeys. They are not anything simular to anti war but rather a bunch of hateful whiners. A lot like the "pro-life" group...they kill to get their point across.

We watched the movie "Bobby" last night, much real footage, very touching speeches about people and caring for one another....times have changed. The peace groups then would not own a gun unless they were radical killers, now they hide behind their guns to make up for their lack of courage....you see that here too. Nowadays it seems many of the peace donkeys will threaten you and I for expressing views different from theirs. Hypocrite dirtbags desperately working to look intellegent.

Hanoi Jane was a disgrace to America....but at least she had courage, yes is was misguided but none the less it was courage, the jerkoffs now just run their jaws and use other peoples words in an attempt to fool the fool. You see that here too.

Oh BTW phuck you FuckThisLoser you scum sucking piece of crap.
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