Originally Posted by DaveN007
As opposed to an un-sovereign nation? Do you even know what the words mean that you toss up here?
Star, I have acknowledged that you and even FTL may very well be the two people on Earth who didn't see Iraq as a threat to the US before we invaded.
To suggest that Iraq and India and Ireland all came up as the same on the "threat-o-meter" is a very strange thing to believe. But it lines up perfectly with the lack of ability liberals have to draw a moral equivalence. Fish are frogs are boys are dogs. Bush is Osama is Cheney is Sadaam.
But I accept that you and FTl were the only people who knew that there would be no WMDs in Iraq and that your intelligence sources were much better than Bill Clinton's. I have said as much before.
The ONLY TWO people in the world ??? But then I accept that you are the only person in the world that hasn't clue what you are talking about , like always .
Scientist driven to suicide, lawyer says
By Charles M. Sennott, Globe Staff, 9/26/2003
LONDON -- The lawyer for the family of a British weapons specialist who committed suicide accused the government yesterday of using him as "a pawn" in its public relations battles to defend its role in Iraq, ultimately driving him to his death.
Jeremy Gompertz said during closing arguments of an inquiry into the death of David Kelly that the government was in a "bitter battle" against the British Broadcasting Corp., over a story that claimed intelligence reports about Iraq were "sexed up" to convince a skeptical British public. Kelly was later identified by the government as the source of the story, leaving him feeling "betrayed" and "brokenhearted," Gompertz said. Police believe Kelly took his own life in July, eight days after being revealed as the BBC's source.
"This was a cynical abuse of power which deserves the strongest possible condemnation," added Gompertz.
Government lawyers, however, insisted there was no legal prohibition against them revealing Kelly's name as the source of the controversial May report.
After 22 days of hearings, 110 hours of testimony, and 74 witnesses including some of the most powerful figures in the British government, military intelligence, and the media, the judicial inquiry headed by Lord Hutton ended yesterday with the country awaiting its verdict, which Hutton said would be delivered by December.
The inquiry is narrowly focused on "the events surrounding the death" of Kelly, one of the world's top biological and chemical weapons specialists who had been tasked by the British government to uncover Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. But the probe has become about something much greater: whether the war itself was justified.
The BBC story focused on a September 2002 intelligence dossier that asserted Iraq was capable of launching weapons of mass destruction "within 45 minutes" of an order to do so. The BBC report also stated that the government included the information knowing it was false. It was revealed at the inquiry that the weapons referred to in the dossier were crude battlefield munitions, not medium- or long-range missiles.
Jonathan Sumption, counsel for the government, said it was "completely unjustified" to criticize the government of Prime Minister Tony Blair for revealing Kelly's name and that it had a right to defend itself against "scandalous" claims that it had manipulated intelligence to justify going to war.
Even as the inquiry came to a close, political observers said the wider debate over whether the government exaggerated the Iraqi threat would not fade quickly.
London's newspapers carried banner headlines yesterday about the interim report on the findings of 1,400 British and American weapons specialists, who have been scouring sites in Iraq for several months, that reportedly showed that they had not uncovered any trace of weapons of mass destruction.
The leaders of the two main opposition parties in parliament -- the Conservative Party and the Liberal Democratic Party -- have clamored for further investigations into alleged political manipulation of intelligence reports on Iraq. Antiwar groups have scheduled a large demonstration for tomorrow in the British capital.
The political fallout over the Hutton inquiry has been considerable for Blair. A poll by ICM, Britain's leading pollster, published yesterday in the Guardian newspaper, showed a steady decline over the summer in the prime minister's approval rating.
When Blair's Labor Party holds its annual conference next week in Bournemouth, England, political observers say he will likely try to use the platform to begin the process of winning back the eroding public trust in him and his party.