Originally Posted by JimSmith
You guys keep overlooking the fact that the Iraqis posed no new, or immediate or other danger to the US in March of 2003, so bombing them, regardless of the locations of the "targets" picked by the US Military, was senseless.
If we were not on their land forcing our way of life on them, they posed no danger to the United States, which made killing innocent people and calling it "collateral damage" just as unacceptable as this misguided mission in Iraq.
This is a hopelessly naive, myopic, dangerous view of the evidence and events before and after 9/11. I'd have thought you were above wielding the great pencil and eraser of revisionist history that had been bequeathed to FTL by God himself.
This assertion, taken as fact, is the root cause of the hostility embodied by the left, and the resultant confusion it creates within the right.
I'd be pissed if I knew any of those statements to be based in fact. Especially if this was the "whole story".
Just one problem - it isn't.
They're only as true as one's (rather demented) imagination and psyche WISH them to be. The more truth you find in them, the further from reality one walks.
I'm talking about root cause analysis of the hatred embodied by a select few here, not an analysis of what has happened since 9/11 and whether or not any given plans were carried out properly.
At the root of all these arguments lies the new, twisted view that we should never have been in Iraq in the first place and our continuing presence there is nothing more than bloodlust...as if to say we were motoring happily along, when suddenly and for no reason whatsoever, the driver decided to take us straight into a schoolyard and start mowing down children.
This is massively, psychopathically, clinically deranged thinking - worthy of study, shock therapy, medication, and use of a straight jacket. People who really honestly believe this kind of shit do not belong in public - they represent a danger to themselves and others. It's toxic. It is ignorant first, and unhealthy by virtually any measure. It fails tests of reason, decency, common sense, and historical fact.
The ongoing rhetorical spewing of this disgusting nonsense is so utterly appalling that it borders on the profane. It's over the line, it's tiresome, it's insulting to the collective intelligence and memories of everyone here, it's irresponsible, and it serves no positive purpose whatsoever. There is no moral high ground in the posession of one who believes such hateful, destructive things of ourselves and the efforts of our military men and women - this is the epitome of "pig wallowing".
You're known by the company you keep. It's becoming increasingly clear that FTL is off the deep end here, and is no longer capable of viewing history or current events through an objective lens. I'd caution against assuming his words are based in fact, or worthy of reinforcement by your otherwise intelligent and reasoned opinion - particularly on this subject - simply because the validity of your message may be drowned by those who have long memories and are prone to consider the source when reading these threads.