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I find it interesting that I myself, being a reasonably well informed citizen, have heard nothing of the allegations above except on a Mercedes-Benz Off-Topic forum...perhaps the whole story isn't yet known, and we should reserve judgement and sentencing until that time. Just a suggestion. You know, cause this is newsworthy shit...that's smoking gun kind of material. Wonder what the sources are....

This is revisionist history at work, Ron...honestly. The administration was *never* content with the beaureaucratic disaster/paper tiger which is the U.N. It serves no real purpose other than to make us look like assholes on the world stage, and to give real criminals like Chirac and his lot an opportunity to cover their tracks or bring enough people in on their scams that they never face scrutiny. Hans Blix would still be tooling around Baghdad, wherever Saddam would let him, with divining rods and whatever other manners of obfuscation he could muster, if we'd have let the UN to it's own devices. Let me ask you - didn't seem at all unusual that Saddam - a man with reportedly nothing to hide - wouldn't let a completely neutral inspection team even set one foot on acres and acres of government installations one day, then would the next? Do you honestly think the UN ground crew in Iraq was left to inspect freely and unfettered, or that they *ever* would have been? Isn't the appearance of impropriety worth something when hundreds of thousands of lives could be at stake?
Perhaps some catching up is in order. Have you been following this story intently each and every day for the last 5 years? Have you read the insider books by Mr. Woodward, Mr. Clark, Mr. Blix, Mr. Ricks and others? Have you been following the Scooter Libby trial? Follow the trial, and you'll see how important WMDs were to the administration. Also, do a little research on one Ahmed Chalabi, a one-time employee of the Bush administration.

If you believe that the U.S. would allow a UN ground crew into inspect freely and unfettered anything anywhere in this country, you are deluding yourself. Do not confuse the frustrations of the first UN inspectors with the experience of the 2003 Blix team. Again, read Mr. Blix's book for a fair appraisal of the situation.

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Low expectations that we have not had any attacks after 9/11 on our grounds? Yeah those are '"low" expectations.

What in your mind are considered "high" expectations??
I see a trade of 3000 plus American's lives, on the order of 30,000 Americans wounded or maimed, and a trillion dollars over 4 years to "prevent" a disaster like 9-11 a pretty bad deal. Yes, it is low expectations to send fodder to Iraq to attract nuts from around the Middle East to practice terror tactics and killing of Americans for year after year endlessly and call that "success." Jim
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