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Diversionary tactic? You are the one who said "who was lying to us in 1998". Well, no one was, because the actions taken were within the bounds of international law, and were restricted to a specific situation and targets. The Republican Militia In Iraq, on the other hand, unleased a massive attack on a defenseless civilian population, followed by an occupation punctuated by murder, rape, torture, forced mass unemployment, unrestricted looting, and the setting up of a puppet government that outlawed political parties and then carried on phony elections that excluded a third of the people in the country. Your "1998" example is, like you, full of shit.

Diversionary tactic, yes, absolutely. Question asked, why did we need to remove Saddam? Answer, because several noteworthy Democrats, whom you worship, said so. The authorization to use force came in 2002, however, those Democrats who voted for it didn't do so because Bush lied to them, as you have asserted here, it would appear their opinions of Saddam were formed well in advance. That was the whole point, and I know you'd like to forget that one and move on to something else . . .
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READ THIS QUICK< IT WILL BE EDITED OUT IN MOMENTS>>>>THE MODS ARE FTL'S BITCHS

Forget posting anything that is not the democraptic view....it will often be edited out....free speech does not exist in the private confines of the ot.

"FTL" is a sick coward who obviously sucks the cock of the moderators here.

FTL, GET YOUR HEAD EXAMINED. Our president is not a nazi as you have deemed him....YOU ARE A SICK MAN.

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READ THIS QUICK< IT WILL BE EDITED OUT IN MOMENTS>>>>THE MODS ARE FTL'S BITCHS

Forget posting anything that is not the democraptic view....it will often be edited out....free speech does not exist in the private confines of the ot.

"FTL" is a sick coward who obviously sucks the cock of the moderators here.

FTL, GET YOUR HEAD EXAMINED. Our president is not a nazi as you have deemed him....YOU ARE A SICK MAN.

Now go hide in your massive collection of firearms....
Thanks for your kind offer, but I am not so inclined.
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READ THIS QUICK< IT WILL BE EDITED OUT IN MOMENTS>>>>THE MODS ARE FTL'S BITCHS

Forget posting anything that is not the democraptic view....it will often be edited out....free speech does not exist in the private confines of the ot.

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FTL, GET YOUR HEAD EXAMINED. Our president is not a nazi as you have deemed him....YOU ARE A SICK MAN.

Now go hide in your massive collection of firearms....



Good luck saving the world there, pal.

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Thanks for your kind offer, but I am not so inclined.
This thread, as others, are often mutilated (edited ) while a flat out threat is ignored....your true colors show.

No "kind offers" here asshole.
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Is that you? look at those chicken wings!
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Diversionary tactic, yes, absolutely. Question asked, why did we need to remove Saddam? Answer, because several noteworthy Democrats, whom you worship, said so. The authorization to use force came in 2002, however, those Democrats who voted for it didn't do so because Bush lied to them, as you have asserted here, it would appear their opinions of Saddam were formed well in advance. That was the whole point, and I know you'd like to forget that one and move on to something else . . .
Oh no, I won't forget, in fact I am going to spend some time, lots of time to see if you can speak in more than broad generalities. Now, when the Democrats authorized use of force, where in this authorization was the clause that gave George Bush the right to violate the UN Charter and make aggressive war without the consent of the Security Council, a treaty obligation we were bound by? Second, when the decision was made to violate the UN Charter, which Democrats were consulted? Which ones gave the go ahead? Where they silent about it or did they object to our unilateral attack? Did Bush give any assurances he would pursue every avenue before attacking?

Next, before ok'ing the use of force, were the Democrats given any false or misleading information? How about a top Republican, Colin Powell - he was given the job of making the case before the UN - has he ever said anything about being given false and intentionally misleading information that he was duped into presenting to the UN?

Next, a simple question of law - if I give you false and misleading information to induce you to invest in my Ponzi scheme, legally, what is that called?

Lastly, do you know anything about aluminum tubes?

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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1.) Jimmy Carter was instrumental in bringing about the fall of the Pahlavi regime, which allowed a radical Islamic regime to gain power in Iran. A good example of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions."

2.) Bush Sen. lost any credibility with Iraqs Shia and Kurdish population, when he asked both groups to rise up against Saddams Goverment and implied U.S. support should they do so. After being kicked out of Kuwait, Saddams republican guard troops had fled halfway to Bagdad when U.S. forces not only halted at the Iraq border, but also returned to Iraq captured planes and Tanks. Saddams republican guard troops felt safe enough to return South to Najaf and Basra etc. to slaughter over 100,000 Shia. The also went North to do the same to apx. 100,000 Kurds (91).

3.) GW and his circle of dilletantes invaded Iraq, instead of taking action agains the far greater threat Iran represents. This Goverment is now faced with having spent $ 317 Billion, having seen over 3,000 Americans and as many as 100,000 Iraqis die, only to have a large part of Iraq with all its natural resources become de facto Provinces of Iran.

All this has gone way beyond Republican or Democratic rhetoric.

We could very well be in the middle of a radical Islamic Crusade to conquer as much of the World as possible.

The passive Islamic majority has to start taking sides and get actively involved in the fight against Islamic radicals.

They need to understand that their demise is far more imminent than ours.

Someone has voiced the opinion, that this fight will only be over, when every Mosque has been turned into a McDonald's etc.

I hope that's not true.
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