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So true. If I didn't blast the USA in front of my European associates I would get no business nor invites. Even more sad is that I generally agree with them regarding Americas recently deserved reputation. I have to start conversations with apologies for Bush and for myself being from Texas. I soon gain their trust this way. I do not mind Bush bashing, but take it too far and I will turn on you without fail. They respect this as well. They are just like us after all.
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So true. If I didn't blast the USA in front of my European associates I would get no business nor invites. Even more sad is that I generally agree with them regarding Americas recently deserved reputation. I have to start conversations with apologies for Bush and for myself being from Texas. I soon gain their trust this way. I do not mind Bush bashing, but take it too far and I will turn on you without fail. They respect this as well. They are just like us after all.
Yeah nothing like bashing, running down and talking shit about your country, the State where you grew up and it's leaders just to make a quick buck. Oh you are a biznezz man now. I think most male prosititutes selling their ass and mouth to have their next refill for their crack pipe have more morals and ethics than you.
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Actually living in one's country might help prevent others from thinking you are a sickening hypocrite.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Is it not just as hypocritcal to live in the country, use it's advantages and conviences of the State and the country and reap benefits from said country and then run it down and bash it when it makes good business sense? I do not live in the US and I do not benefit from being a US citizen as I get nothing from the States or the US govt. but it does not mean I cannot stand up and say what I feel about a born and bred US citizen bashing the US for a quick buck.

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I think it's quite interesting how people view other nations. Here in NZ there is a general untrue perception that Americans are fat lazy and stupid. I was talkng to a friend of mine the other day who said this and I retorted that a country that is so stupid...invented powered flight, and was home to such people as Thomas Edison. That and she along with the rest of the world consumes your whole "stupid" culture in the form of music, fashion and movies. The funny thing for me is that as far as I'm concerned an equal percentage of the NZ population is just as stupid, fat and lazy as Americans.

I think where the perception that I mentioned before comes from is that America as a country is very insular, you've only got to look at the news you get, here we have your CNN, Fox, ABC and CBS news. Basicly the only overseas news you get is: Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Afganistan and perhaps a bit of China. I also think that as the US is such a big country that Americans don't travel outside of the US as much as other countries do, for example NZers are some of the most traveled people in the world, and I think thats due to our size we are so small that living here by the time your 10 years old you've seen pretty much the entire country so what else is there left to see?

I'm not really sure where I'm going with this but there seems to be a lack of knowledge within the US of countries outside your boarders for the general populas, which is why I think you unintentionaly rub alot of other countries the other way. It reminds me of this great cartoon that I saw in a history book about Vietnam, it had uncle sam and a vietnamese man dressed in the uncle sam outfit which was far too big for him. Uncle sam listed all the virtues of this outfit, cool in summer, warm in winter etc and hes says: "yes but it don't fit" I think Americans need to understand that how they think or what works for them is not always what the rest of the world wants or thinks like.
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^^^^Well said NZ, for me I have heard slagging from the bes to fthem when it comes to running down the States and the Sepos'. So I am use to it coming from non US citizens, water off a ducks back. But when it comes from a US citizen bashing the US and it's leaders to non US citizens only to make a quick buck....well damn how much lower can a person sink?
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Hi Expat

You must be truly naive if you haven't figured out by now that to clinch a sale sometimes a guy may have to compromise his own principles somewhat. Business is business.....

To bring this back to the world of motoring, what's the difference between a hard sales pitch that includes borderline positives about a product, and the same guy making untrue negative statements about a rival product? It's called giving a customer 'a warm feeling'.
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