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Buy these Bonds for a large return - Another Democratic Scam


Governor Dean kicked off the 'Democracy Bonds' initiative by logging on to the web site from his home in Burlington, Vermont.
Your 'Democracy Bond' is a commitment to make a monthly donation to the Democratic Party in order to:
* Reform the political process by building a political party beholden only to the people, not the special interests
* Build the Democratic Party from the ground up in every precinct so that we can compete everywhere
* Win elections in every state and territory of the United States, at every level of office
'Democracy Bonds' are about building a community of Americans with a stake in our common future -- locally, nationally, and globally. They will bond together a person in Alaska and a person in Missouri in common cause for a political process where parties are accountable to ordinary people and their concerns.
With a 'Democracy Bond' you don't get any money back -- but you do get your country back.

Well have any of you George Bush Dick Cheney hating Dems bought any of these 2 take back your country? I love that, they call them bonds but if you buy them you get nothing back, if any of us simple people tried this we would be thrown in jail.

Speak up please all of the DEMS on tthis site that have stepped up and did the RIGHT thing and bought back your country with a Democracy Bond. Bet these guys would sell you the Brooklyn Bridge as well if you asked.

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Let's hope all in the looney left buy all of them..................................

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All these anti-democratic threads and you still can't get FTL to leave his Hawaii vacation long enough to scream. He must really be enjoying his dick creams and pussy pastes.

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* Reform the political process by building a political party beholden only to the people, not the special interests

Too late for this one, the country has been irretrievably hijacked, Democrats nor Republicans nor 'the pepole' will get it back.



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a political process where parties are accountable to ordinary people and their concerns.

As above.


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All these anti-democratic threads and you still can't get FTL to leave his Hawaii vacation long enough to scream. He must really be enjoying his dick creams and pussy pastes.



Yeah, he's not taking the bait today he's in a gulag somewhere biting the pillow whilst being buggered by the ACLU.

I'll try this..


JIMMY CARTER GAVE AWAY THE PANAMA CANAL !
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CARTER DEMANDED THE SHAH OF IRAN TURN OVER POWER TO THE AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI !
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Still nothing.
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C'mon pull your panties up and come out ya' bastard.
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Ah fuck it, I'm going to have my 6:37am wank.


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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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CARTER DEMANDED THE SHAH OF IRAN TURN OVER POWER TO THE AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI !
When exactly did this happen. I'm not saying it isn't partly Carter's fault the Shah fell, but I'm just wondering when that happened. It interests me as someone who had close ties in the Shah's government (which I admit was less than ideal).
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I don't think it did happen. The Shah was a total washout with the people of Iran, running him out of town was pretty much a unanimous decision of the Iranian people. The US government's big problem was the usual one, it did not have a clue what the general will of the people was in Iran and continued to support a loser who had lost popular support, kind of what we are doing now with Maliki in Iraq. Instead of supporting some kind of secular alternative to the Shah, we backed him for too long, allowing a power vacuum to form that the Iranian religious nutcases moved into, again, like we are currently doing in Iraq. Carter did not withdraw support from the Shah, in fact the Shah started making big trouble for us in both his miserbale human rights record and in his becoming a militant member of OPEC, so he in effect screwed himself.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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I don't think it did happen. The Shah was a total washout with the people of Iran, running him out of town was pretty much a unanimous decision of the Iranian people. The US government's big problem was the usual one, it did not have a clue what the general will of the people was in Iran and continued to support a loser who had lost popular support, kind of what we are doing now with Maliki in Iraq. Instead of supporting some kind of secular alternative to the Shah, we backed him for too long, allowing a power vacuum to form that the Iranian religious nutcases moved into, again, like we are currently doing in Iraq. Carter did not withdraw support from the Shah, in fact the Shah started making big trouble for us in both his miserbale human rights record and in his becoming a militant member of OPEC, so he in effect screwed himself.

Erm, not exactly. It's quite complicated, but the long and short of it is that the Shah had been, let's say encouraged, to pursue certain policies by the US that created some resentment. Under Nixon, the Shah was then "encouraged" to supress dissent, which led to the human rights record that Carter didn't like, which made Carter unwilling to help him out. The biggest thing was getting a fair fee for the oil. The Shah needed a higher price for his oil to say to his people that it was worthwhile for them to be allied with the US. Carter didn't oppose the Shah, but he did effectively pull all support. This made the alliance with the US appear fruitless and the Shah was blamed for everything.

Running him out wasn't exactly a unamimous decision. The US did pull off and did also put some influences into place to promote the religious revolution. This was the idea of the largely conservative US intel community who thought that by making Islam strong in Iran they would weaken communism...though that turned out to have the opposite effect.

The way to have prevented the Iranian revolution (considered in the context of the region, the Shah's humanitarian record was not that bad) would have been to have given him more money for oil (and aid in general) and to have given him some political advisors (Iranian government at the time had no concept of PR).

It wasn't really Carter's fault entirely, but there were balls in motion that he didn't stop and maybe even pushed along a little.

Really, at the root of things, the British were to blame. They were the ones who had insisted on removing his father from power, and since at the time who we call the Shah was so young he had not yet really learned how to govern.

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