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It runs in your family to be full of shit. How is cousin kamil dung?

I would bet my last buck you never lived outside of the USA....not counting Canada.

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We had a thread on that a week ago and I posted pictures of my passport with visa stamps of those countries. Now that you lost your bet for real have a merry Christmas and give me all of your presents. Who's the dickcheese now?
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Its a sure bet. The prof is yet another self proclaimed genius.
You lost, now give me your presents
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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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Well Prevfessor, I going to drive over to Webster City Ia and watch my daughter play High school basketball, so the board is yours for now to show all how intelligent you are.

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Well Prevfessor, I going to drive over to Webster City Ia and watch my daughter play High school basketball, so the board is yours for now to show all how intelligent you are.

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Can you say that in German?

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Ok, now that the personal attacks and attempt at discrediting have temporarily ceased can anyone get back on the subject. So far out of 70 responses only Cascade had the balls to venture in and even then we both strayed from the subject
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Venture into what? The Jews are just another special interest group. They have goals and aims and ulterior motives. They bring something to the table, a nice piece of military real estate, a filthy rich American political constituency, and a desire and ability to fight. Are you complaining on the grounds that they are doing better than other special interest groups at getting their aims realized? It won't do you any good, because they have huge political support in the US in both parties. Myself, I decided a long time ago that Britain and Israel are de facto states of The United States. If you told me the Californians were doing well when Reagan was in office, I'd react the same way to you telling me the Israelis are doing well - they are just another part of the electorate to me. If we want to improve the situation, we should just admit reality and annex them, just like we should do with Britain and Mexico - their foreign status gives them electoral advantages that are unfair.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address

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Venture into what? The Jews are just another special interest group. They have goals and aims and ulterior motives. They bring something to the table, a nice piece of military real estate, a filthy rich American political constituency, and a desire and ability to fight. Are you complaining on the grounds that they are doing better than other special interest groups at getting their aims realized? It won't do you any good, because they have huge political support in the US in both parties. Myself, I decided a long time ago that Britain and Israel are de facto states of The United States. If you told me the Californians were doing well when Reagan was in office, I'd react the same way to you telling me the Israelis are doing well - they are just another part of the electorate to me. If we want to improve the situation, we should just admit reality and annex them, just like we should do with Britain and Mexico - their foreign status gives them electoral advantages that are unfair.
That was not the point of the article by the way. It was about justifying the war on Iraq. That's the point most people here failed to see because we are conditioned to respond the way you just did or what you saw throughout this thread.
The reason I brought up the article is because I am now convinced that we are fighting Israel's war. But the problem is that it should not be Israel's war. This is a mistake that will cost Israel as it is costing us right now. Am I saying anything impolitely correct?
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Well, I don't see it as "Israel's War". Israel is very much like the US - it has a left wing faction that is very liberal, a mushy middle and a conservative faction that is as overrun with religious nuts as our own GOP is, if not more. All these factions have de facto Senators and Congressman representing them in the US. I won't say that "Israel" orchestrated the war, but I would be the first to say that far right wing factions in Israel and far right wing factions in the US worked the deal to both their advantages. My conclusions are much different than yours - you see Israel as "in charge" or "behind" the war. I say a bunch of fucking fascists were - Wolfowitz, Kristol, all of these people are Jewish fascists who were supported by Jewish fascists in Israel, and all were working in cahoots with Redneck Fascists in the US, the current unholy evil alliance and criminal conspiracy in the world, rivaling that of the Nazis if you ask me. But that does not mean all Jews are fascists or that Israel is a fascist nation, it just means these factions got lucky, and there are plenty of liberal Jews who will work with those who fight for right and justice to defeat these bastards. It is counterproductive to piss them off by lumping them all in under one umbrella to define Jews as a class that is out doing certain things. The world is simply not that way. When the fascists are not in power in Israel, they don't act like that, just like we do.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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