We have lots of threads about God, but what about Jesus? - Mercedes-Benz Forum

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-18-2006, 09:08 PM Thread Starter
BenzWorld Elite
 
FeelTheLove's Avatar
 
Date registered: Sep 2004
Vehicle: 83 Astral Silver 280 SL
Location: Planet Houston
Posts: 28,829
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
(Thread Starter)
We have lots of threads about God, but what about Jesus?

I mean, isn't the idea of the man-god patently ridiculous? In the post-modern world, I can still see valid arguments for the existance of some great force at work in the universe, but isn't it time we give up the whole homo-centric Christ thing as myth?

I know when my mind changed on the subject - when I attended college and studied the Greek and Roman cultures, I found that much of what was in the New Testament was a rehash of the Bacchas myth, and that just about every Benny Hinn running around at the turn of the millenial age had people writing fantastic stories of miracles and such in order to gain converts and bucks. Around the same time, I began to actually listen to what the minister in my Presby church was saying - blood of Jesus, blood of the cross, blood of the lamb, Jesus died for your sins (even though he was a god, which by definition cannot die), it was all a bloody mess. So what say you? And what about Jesus in the modern age, can he survive the march of science? Is Jesus now relevent only to people capable of being suckered by such baloney?

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
FeelTheLove is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-18-2006, 09:16 PM
BenzWorld Senior Member
 
Date registered: Jul 2006
Vehicle: 1990 300E
Location: southern cave
Posts: 450
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Religion and science MUST go together.....but they simply cannot.

If man did not fear the finality of death there would be no following of religion whatsoever.

Sadly religion lacks, for the most part, the kindness it dictates so vigorously. Just look to the east and any doubt will be null and void.

As far as the Jesus issue...I understand he was a Jewish carpenter.

Happy Holidays....non denominational perhaps.

Michael
my90300E is offline  
post #3 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-18-2006, 09:20 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Corkscrew's Avatar
 
Date registered: May 2005
Vehicle: 2009 BMW Z4, 2005 SLK 200, 2004 S 280
Location: Bangkok,Thailand
Posts: 1,950
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by my90300E
Religion and science MUST go together.....but they simply cannot.

If man did not fear the finality of death there would be no following of religion whatsoever.

Sadly religion lacks, for the most part, the kindness it dictates so vigorously. Just look to the east and any doubt will be null and void.

As far as the Jesus issue...I understand he was a Jewish carpenter.

Happy Holidays....non denominational perhaps.

Michael
I thought his dad, Joeseph, was a carpenter. Was Jesus his apprentice? Did his mom work?

2009 BMW Z4, 2014 MB 300S BLUETEC HYBRID, 2005 MB SLK 200
Corkscrew is offline  
post #4 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-18-2006, 09:21 PM
BenzWorld Senior Member
 
Date registered: Jul 2006
Vehicle: 1990 300E
Location: southern cave
Posts: 450
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
You may be right....I do know he was non-union.
my90300E is offline  
post #5 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-18-2006, 09:22 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
mzsmbs's Avatar
 
Date registered: Sep 2004
Vehicle: 1972 Mercedes 250 (/8) W114/M130
Location: on a high bank of a creek
Posts: 7,296
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
yeah, bloody mess for sure.. people running around getting stoned, guaging others' eyes.. kind of reminiscent of the ramping up of fear we got going on in our country right now. all this death and misery in the name of god.. i don't know man.. Great OutDoors.



in political asylum
mzsmbs is offline  
post #6 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-18-2006, 09:23 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
mzsmbs's Avatar
 
Date registered: Sep 2004
Vehicle: 1972 Mercedes 250 (/8) W114/M130
Location: on a high bank of a creek
Posts: 7,296
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corkscrew
I thought his dad, Joeseph, was a carpenter. Was Jesus his apprentice? Did his mom work?
he wasn't a lepper king?



in political asylum
mzsmbs is offline  
post #7 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-18-2006, 09:26 PM
BenzWorld Senior Member
 
Date registered: Jul 2006
Vehicle: 1990 300E
Location: southern cave
Posts: 450
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by mzsmbs
he wasn't a lepper king?
Is leppr king a punk rock band?
my90300E is offline  
post #8 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-18-2006, 09:45 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
Corkscrew's Avatar
 
Date registered: May 2005
Vehicle: 2009 BMW Z4, 2005 SLK 200, 2004 S 280
Location: Bangkok,Thailand
Posts: 1,950
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
From Choke:

"Do you think Jesus automatically knew he was Jesus from the start, or did his mom or somebody tell him and he grew into it? Just supposing Jesus Christ had to practice being the Son of God to get any good at it. What if Jesus spent all his growing up getting things wrong before he ever got a single miracle right? How is it we don't read about Jesus' failed first attempts or how he didn't really crank out the big miracles until he was over thirty? How about if Jesus got started by just doing nice things for people, you know, helping old ladies cross the street or telling people when they'd left their headlights on? Well, not that exactly, but you get the idea. How about if Jesus spent years working up to the big loaves-and-the-fishes thing? I mean, that Lazarus deal is probably something he'd have to build up to, right? Maybe, maybe even Jesus didn't believe in himself at first. Maybe miracles are like talent, and you have to start with the small stuff. I don't mean like Jesus did card tricks, but just not hurting people would be a good start."

2009 BMW Z4, 2014 MB 300S BLUETEC HYBRID, 2005 MB SLK 200
Corkscrew is offline  
post #9 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-18-2006, 09:47 PM
BenzWorld Senior Member
 
Date registered: Jul 2006
Vehicle: 1990 300E
Location: southern cave
Posts: 450
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corkscrew
From Choke:

"Do you think Jesus automatically knew he was Jesus from the start, or did his mom or somebody tell him and he grew into it? Just supposing Jesus Christ had to practice being the Son of God to get any good at it. What if Jesus spent all his growing up getting things wrong before he ever got a single miracle right? How is it we don't read about Jesus' failed first attempts or how he didn't really crank out the big miracles until he was over thirty? How about if Jesus got started by just doing nice things for people, you know, helping old ladies cross the street or telling people when they'd left their headlights on? Well, not that exactly, but you get the idea. How about if Jesus spent years working up to the big loaves-and-the-fishes thing? I mean, that Lazarus deal is probably something he'd have to build up to, right? Maybe, maybe even Jesus didn't believe in himself at first. Maybe miracles are like talent, and you have to start with the small stuff. I don't mean like Jesus did card tricks, but just not hurting people would be a good start."
JESUS CHRIST! ......its like you read my mind Corkscrew!
my90300E is offline  
post #10 of 22 (permalink) Old 12-18-2006, 10:34 PM
BenzWorld Elite
 
elau's Avatar
 
Date registered: Oct 2002
Location: Maryland
Posts: 5,392
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corkscrew
How is it we don't read about Jesus' failed first attempts or how he didn't really crank out the big miracles until he was over thirty?
Yeah you have. That where the phase "Jesus fvcking Christ" comes from.

Quote:
Maybe miracles are like talent, and you have to start with the small stuff.
Something like Yoda and the Jedi? Or is it wax on, wax off?

Quote:
I don't mean like Jesus did card tricks, but just not hurting people would be a good start."
Some how that image cracks me up.

'95 R129
'04 G35.5 BS
'10 X204
elau is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Mercedes-Benz Forum > General Mercedes-Benz Forums > Off-Topic

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Mercedes-Benz Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











  • Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
     
    Thread Tools
    Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
    Email this Page Email this Page
    Display Modes
    Linear Mode Linear Mode



    Similar Threads
    Topic Author Forum Replies Last Post
    Jugo de Jesus ThrillKill Off-Topic 0 11-12-2006 09:52 AM
    jesus camp mzsmbs Off-Topic 10 09-15-2006 02:39 PM
    Jesus heckflosse_uk Off-Topic 4 01-29-2006 02:36 AM
    Have you found Jesus? moparmike Off-Topic 58 05-11-2005 12:00 AM
    WWJD ... not what would Jesus do but, rather what would Jesus drive Guest (MBNZ) The Discount Tire Direct Tire, Wheel, Brake & Suspension 4 09-12-2001 09:18 PM

    Posting Rules  
    You may post new threads
    You may post replies
    You may not post attachments
    You may not edit your posts

    BB code is On
    Smilies are On
    [IMG] code is On
    HTML code is Off
    Trackbacks are On
    Pingbacks are On
    Refbacks are On

     

    Title goes here

    close
    video goes here
    description goes here. Read Full Story
    For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome