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I don't pretend to know what makes a woman want to be with any man for any length of time, and, being aware of that has helped me keep the woman I snagged in 1974. Even so, would I stay with me if I was a woman? Unlikely, unless I was a hog. Which is not the case with my wife.

So, I just write off Hilary's means of dealing with Bill, 100% of Bill, the vast majority of which we will never know, as something that I don't understand, don't need to understand, and therefore don't give a shit about. Like much of everyone else's business.

But she is unelectable. Jim
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Condi Rice is a war criminal who should be arrested, tried, and executed.
Hillary and Obama need to make that part of their platform very clear.
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Yeah, and you hit right on why the Dems will win no matter who they nominate.
I hope the DNC feels this way, and that Hillary gets the nod. Two years is plenty of time for the GOP to find themselves again. Perhaps a return of the Newtster, backing Giuliani's campaign (or perhaps even as VP) would be in order.

Rudy Giuliani is the trump card to Hillary Clinton. I think this is probably widely believed although not widely discussed. I will not be surprised if Hillary doesn't run, but if she does, it'll probably be done with this "What have I got to loose? Let's see what happens" attitude instead of the purpose and vision the position deserves.

Of course, I'd still like to see the parties abolished (meaning idiots like us need to stop pandering to them and picking from either column "D" or column "R"). In this measure, Hillary wouldn't stand a chance.
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Perhaps she stays because she is ruled by her own political ambitions.
Always looking at the bright side, how do you do it?

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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This will help.

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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Hillary and Obama need to make that part of their platform very clear.
No shit, I hope they are as stupid and bitter.

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Perhaps she stays because she is ruled by her own political ambitions.
All politicians have public and private motives for being politicians and those motives always influence their public and private decisions. So what? Jim
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If that happens I'll vote Republican. It will be proof positive that the Dems could fuck up a free lunch. I like Hillary, and I like Obama but together or separately they are unelectable.

She is the most hated woman in politics. She won't get the women vote, women hate women. We will be in the middle of a war and you don't elect a woman in the middle of a war. Not to mention every RWNJ will be cashing in his kids college fund to send to the RNC.

Obama Hussain is, in case no one has noticed, black. Oh, and he has no experience. And there is the problem he is a black guy with a built in reason not to vote for him, inexperience. Every racist cracker in the country can say they would vote for him but he is inexperienced. Oh, and he's smoked pot and done coke, can't wait for the ads on that one. What you wanna bet he's dated a white woman? We'll find out.

Obama is like a rookie quarterback. You don't throw him in the game right away. Let him build a record, get seasoned.
Exactly, perfectly explained.

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Or even accept a prominent cabinet position if one becomes available. A long and prominent Senate career seems to be a death sentence these days in that regard.
Even a long and inglorious career in the senate does no good. Look at Kerry.

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