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Old 12-13-2006, 06:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Don't let your conscience be your guide. Shut-up as much as possible but not so much as to appear unresponsive. Speak in generic platitudes and agree with most of the people. Do not get impatient (or at least don't show it). Look respectful and attentive.

Go home, take a bath, and drink whisky. Tell your friends what you should've said.

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Old 12-13-2006, 06:28 PM   #12 (permalink)
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And if its a woman - no no T&A comments
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Don't let your conscience be your guide. Shut-up as much as possible but not so much as to appear unresponsive. Speak in generic platitudes and agree with most of the people. Do not get impatient (or at least don't show it). Look respectful and attentive.

Go home, take a bath, and drink whisky. Tell your friends what you should've said.

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Sound advice. I found, to pick one example, that 'we are all prejudced'. This conclusion was found by noting that we tend to expect certain things of people given our past experience of how they behave. Apparently, this is prejudice. To me, this is 'expectation', not prejudice, which has connotations of race hate, bigotry, & Co. It wasn't up for discussion, so we just sat there and learned that we were 'prejudiced'. What do you think, am I over reacting? Is it just semantics or, as I think, PC indoctrination? If someone wants to self-flagellate over real or imaginary thoughtcrime, be my guest, but why include everyone else in it? Btw this four hour long 'training' was compulsory.
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:43 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You'll suffer greater indignations in the future. Clearly you haven't had a drug test yet. Making you pee in a cup as a grown man is much more dehumanizing than being told you are prejudiced. Its a temporary humiliation for (let's face it) making a good living and doing little for it (at least in my case).

Personally, I think it was a backlash against this very type of thing that got GW elected. People saw Gore and thought affirmative action, political correctness and of course Lewinsky and thought "hey, maybe this guy won't be such a PC pansy!" Who knew they would be so tragically right.
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Old 12-14-2006, 03:30 PM   #15 (permalink)
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You'll suffer greater indignations in the future. Clearly you haven't had a drug test yet. Making you pee in a cup as a grown man is much more dehumanizing than being told you are prejudiced. Its a temporary humiliation for (let's face it) making a good living and doing little for it (at least in my case).

Personally, I think it was a backlash against this very type of thing that got GW elected. People saw Gore and thought affirmative action, political correctness and of course Lewinsky and thought "hey, maybe this guy won't be such a PC pansy!" Who knew they would be so tragically right.

That's an interesting point. Here in Old Blighty I get the distinct impression that matters are coming to a boil vis a vis the PC doublethink shoved down our collective throats by NuLabour. The Komrades are desperately asking Joe Public to believe 'either us or your lying eyes'. It can only last so long; the slowly boiled frogs are catching sight of who is stoking the fire.
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Old 12-14-2006, 03:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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That's an interesting point. Here in Old Blighty I get the distinct impression that matters are coming to a boil vis a vis the PC doublethink shoved down our collective throats by NuLabour. The Komrades are desperately asking Joe Public to believe 'either us or your lying eyes'. It can only last so long; the slowly boiled frogs are catching sight of who is stoking the fire.
Metaphors run amok!

I have had to do 2 of those mandatory diversity training courses. The first was for racial issues and the second, sexual. Fortunately for me, one of my wise-ass colleagues (yes, there are more where I come from) went to the first one on the first shift on the theory of getting the damned thing behind him. Well, he wasted everybody's time by arguing. That meant they focused on him, which resulted in more arguing. They ran beyond the alloted time and my friend was asked to come back for another session they enjoyed his lively perspective so much.

Having heard from my friend before my own workshop I said, "Uh-huh. Not me." I followed the strategy that I recommended to you. I hope to god that everybody else was following the same strategy and didn't really believe all that crap. regardless, we got out on time, but I needed a bath, whisky, and some friends for serious out-gassing.

The sex thing was several years later. We all sat in sullen silence except for the two dikes in my group having a love-fest with the dikes running the thing. I could've used whisky and a bath with the girls. Guess I forgot to bring that up to them, even though we are all equal and validly sexually oriented in whatever confused state we live. Somehow I don't think they were interested in being that sexually equal.

gawd-a-mighty, jjl, I hope you have to go to that one, too.

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Old 12-14-2006, 04:14 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Metaphors run amok!

I have had to do 2 of those mandatory diversity training courses. The first was for racial issues and the second, sexual. Fortunately for me, one of my wise-ass colleagues (yes, there are more where I come from) went to the first one on the first shift on the theory of getting the damned thing behind him. Well, he wasted everybody's time by arguing. That meant they focused on him, which resulted in more arguing. They ran beyond the alloted time and my friend was asked to come back for another session they enjoyed his lively perspective so much.

Having heard from my friend before my own workshop I said, "Uh-huh. Not me." I followed the strategy that I recommended to you. I hope to god that everybody else was following the same strategy and didn't really believe all that crap. regardless, we got out on time, but I needed a bath, whisky, and some friends for serious out-gassing.

The sex thing was several years later. We all sat in sullen silence except for the two dikes in my group having a love-fest with the dikes running the thing. I could've used whisky and a bath with the girls. Guess I forgot to bring that up to them, even though we are all equal and validly sexually oriented in whatever confused state we live. Somehow I don't think they were interested in being that sexually equal.

gawd-a-mighty, jjl, I hope you have to go to that one, too.

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I did the same as you: buttoned it, lest I lose it and start foaming at the mouth about moral equivalence, cultural relativism and recipes for civilisational suicide, rant rave etc. I laughed out loud when the trainer said that 'we shouldn't call Christmas, Christmas'. I mean, really. It seems however we were short-changed on the sexual material - not a lesbian in sight.

I'm sitting here with a wee dram at the moment (Bowmore, I think - need to check the bottle). To bed shortly. I hope a good night's sleep washes away another day of human folly. One can but laugh, in the end.
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Old 12-15-2006, 04:50 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Well, did Bowmore help? I am propped by something unpronounceable that looks like "laughingfag" and tastes great with just a small bit of water added to a fat shot.
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^^^^^^

Way to go, one of my faves and drunk like it should be. Respec'!

How about this for useless but interesting:-

"It's unique taste saw it prosper in America during the Prohibition (1920-1933) where its import was permitted as a 'medicinal spirit' - aqua vitae indeed! "

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Way to go, one of my faves and drunk like it should be. Respec'!
With help from the Laughingfag and forbearance of God Almighty, I soon should be, too.

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