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Saudi Ambassador resigns in protest ovr ISG,Saudi threats to enter Iraq War if US gos

Just coming over CNN, Saudi Arabia has told US it will enter the Iraq War on the side of the Sunnis if US leaves. The Saudi Ambassador has resigned, left US immediately, reportedly in protest over US considering ISG report. We are now being blackmailed by the Saudi fascists. This is explosive news.

Bush now has announced he will delay his "new way forward" speech. We are now about to see Bush publicly answer to his Saudi Masters.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Get ready for a Saudi oil embargo. They've done it before, they'll do it again.

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Oh, you nattering nabobs...just give it time. Thing's are looking up. There's progress afoot.

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No I am not worried about an embargo we have ARAMCO as our card besides they will have to get the OPEC to play along and that's not going to happen.
I did not know his motive for leaving other than maybe he was slated for his older brother's post as foreign minister since the latter was sick. This is news to me but I knew that there was tension between the Saudis and the US on the issue of Sunnis I just can't imagine it hitting this level.
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Excuse me, but ARAMCO is the Arab American Oil Company. The Saudis own it, we don't, in fact it is pretty much owned by the Saudi Royal Family. The guy who resigned is the king's brother, BTW.

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ARAMCO is run by Americans, without them the Saudis will be pumping sand and trucking camel dung.
I thought that one of his older brothers was the minister of foreign affairs, maybe I am wrong, I will check back with you on that. As to the king, yeah they are all from the same gene pool.
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They will just hire the French. The French are great at stuff like that. So are the Dutch. But one must ask, why would they need anyone if they stop pumping oil? If they never pumped another drop, they wouldn't care, they have more money than they can ever spend. Just plug the wells with uranium wrapped in dynamite, and tell us to back off. We will freeze and walk. They will win.

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Ok here is what I got:
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Saudi Ambassador Abruptly Resigns, Leaves Washington

By Robin Wright
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, December 12, 2006; A23

Prince Turki al-Faisal, Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States, flew out of Washington yesterday after informing Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and his staff that he would be leaving the post after only 15 months on the job, according to U.S. officials and foreign envoys. There has been no formal announcement from the kingdom.

The abrupt departure is particularly striking because his predecessor, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, spent 22 years on the job. The Saudi ambassador is one of the most influential diplomatic positions in Washington and is arguably the most important overseas post for the oil-rich desert kingdom.

Turki, a long-serving former intelligence chief, told his staff yesterday afternoon that he wanted to spend more time with his family, according to Arab diplomats. Colleagues said they were shocked at the decision.

The exit -- without the fanfare, parties and tributes that normally accompany a leading envoy's departure, much less a public statement -- comes as his brother, Prince Saud al-Faisal, the highly influential Saudi foreign minister, is ailing.

Saud, who was appointed in 1975, has held the position of foreign minister longer than any of his counterparts anywhere in the world -- dating back to Henry Kissinger's tenure as secretary of state.

Saudi officials have not commented on Saud's condition, but he has suffered from tremors for years. Last year, he slipped in the shower and fractured a shoulder. After attending the opening of the U.N. General Assembly in September, he flew to Los Angeles for surgery and quietly remained in the United States until shortly before Thanksgiving, according to an Arab official.

As Saud's health has declined, Turki has increasingly been rumored as a possible replacement for his older brother. He would symbolize continuity in Saudi foreign policy at a moment of tension over Iraq between Riyadh and Washington, two long-standing allies in forging common political and economic policy in the Middle East. King Abdullah summoned Vice President Cheney after Thanksgiving for talks on Iraq and other Middle East flashpoints.

Turki has been the subject of both high praise and controversy. In the 1980s, while he was intelligence chief, he reportedly met al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden several times during the U.S.- and Saudi-backed support of mujaheddin fighting the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. He subsequently denounced bin Laden.

Turki later served as ambassador to Britain. "He was regarded as being one of the most effective ambassadors from any country and was held in very high regard," a British diplomat said yesterday.

Saudi Arabia, the guardian of Islam's holiest sites and a predominantly Sunni country, has been deeply concerned about the change in the balance of power in Iraq, with which it shares a 500-mile border. Riyadh has been alarmed by the rise of the Shiite majority in Iraq and the marginalization of the traditional Sunni elite. Young Saudi men have joined the Sunni insurgency as foreign fighters, while there have been persistent reports that Saudi citizens have provided financial aid to the Sunni insurgency.

The kingdom announced earlier this year that it will build an elaborate barrier along the remote desert frontier, with ultraviolet night-vision cameras, underground sensor cables and command posts.

Turki, a 1968 graduate of Georgetown University, will return briefly in January after the Hajj pilgrimage, the busiest time of the year in the kingdom, to say formal goodbyes, according to an Arab official.
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That was the story earlier today. It's changing by the minute. Turn on CNN. Bush canceling his speech, Cheney's trip to Saudi Arabia, the resignation, the Saudi public warning that the Middle East is about to explode, it's all connected to the ISG, man. Recalling an ambassador is serious business, and they are showing George they mean business. We are about to be blackmailed. Watch what Egypt does. Arabia has the money, Egypt has the troops and are the historic protectors of al-Sunna. If we leave, they will invade Iraq. Saddam may get his wish of a united Arab Nation after all.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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