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post #11 of 40 (permalink) Old 12-09-2006, 06:17 AM
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I nearly bought a 107 a few years back, from a 'friend of a friend'. It was very presentable, both body work and interior and the guy lent it to me for the weekend to 'get to know it'. By the end of the Friday night I had fallen in love, so on the Saturday morning I took it to a friend who owned at M.O.T. test centre. Underneath it was full of rot in both structural and non structural areas-a disaster.
So any potential buyers who live in areas where roads are sallted-'caveat emptor'.
I've never seen one driven on salted roads that was worth a shit. I bought mine in Arizona, and that is the way to do it. California and other western states in the US are the best place to buy one to restore.

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There are two ways to approach it: go to the big expense to convert it to double chain or replace the single chain frequently. The problem with leaving the original in there is two fold, not only is the single chain a design flaw, the guides are supposed to be shitty too.

Big shit if the engine blows up anyway. There are all kinds of sedan drive trains that will swap into the 107 and you'd be surprised how easy it is. I'm looking for 500SEC or something similiar right now for a possible swap some day when the drivetrain peters out. If you can get ahold of any 107 that has a nice interior and body cheap, buy it. Current value of that car is about $5800 give or take, mostly take.
I hadn't even considered that. I saw an advert for a 380 with a blown engine in which the seller is asking about a grand and claims the rest of the car is in good condition. What's a 560 engine run, a couple grand? Does they all use the same transmission or is a new tranny part of the swap?

I guess I should cruse over to the M-B people who talk about cars.

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If you buy a rebuilt engine/tranny, it costs about $6500 to $8500 over the web depending on the engine. You can do a Google on rebuilt mercedes engines and you will get back all kinds of remanufacturers, many of whom have impeccable crediantials for high quality work that you can get feedback for on these forums, but the cheapest way to do it , IMO, is to by a donor car. You can buy old Merc tanks all day for three grand that have great drive trains, and they come with all the parts you need and many that can be adapted. It's also a hell of a lot easier to find a 350 or 500 sedan than it is to find a 350SL or 500SL, so you can build a hell of a car if you find the right donor. Despite the 560's reputation, either one of those will blow the doors off that pig.

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Having worked in a small indie MB shop in HS I have driven a number of different types of 107's, but the bigger the engine, the more nose heavy it tends to get. I really like the sl 280's since they feel so much lighter and just as quick as a 380sl. If you want a good combo, put a m119 4.2l v8 in that puppy. All aluminum engine with tons-o-power thanks to 32 valves. The m119 is about 1500-3000 for a good used example. One of my favorite MB engines. M100's are heavy beasts.

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I'd love to do a 4.2 but the 500 is such a legend. The 280 is really the best engine for this car if you don't need to be big on the gas pedal. It has thirty more horse than the 380, is a very,very mature design and is great on gas. I'd probably be better off if I did a five-speed conversion on mine instead of a drive train change out, but my mechanic says it is easier to swap in a 500 auto than it is to put in a manual tranny in a car that was originally automatic.

You also bring up an important fact - the 560 engine is hard on the front end of SL's. Just about every used one I've ever seen needed a ton of front end work.

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You also bring up an important fact - the 560 engine is hard on the front end of SL's. Just about every used one I've ever seen needed a ton of front end work.
Thread after thread on every forum about subframe bushings.

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They go out every 40,000 miles, dirty little secret of SLs. Control arm bushings also wear too fast. Shocks oddly enough last forever.

After that it is fuel system components, relays, pumps, etc.

On the 560s all that luxury stuff never works. I'll take my 280 with rollup windows any day.

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This subject is currently being discussed on the SL, FYI for anyone interested:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r-c1...r-into-sl.html

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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This subject is currently being discussed on the SL, FYI for anyone interested:

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/r-c1...r-into-sl.html
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I read that thread. All they did was talk about cars. What kind of forum is that, anyway?

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