Originally Posted by FeelTheLove
There is only one logical outcome: the partition of Iraq, with the partitions then parcelled out to the Syrians,Jordanians and Iranians. This is the real reason Baker wants Syria and Iran in talks: he is planning on surrendering to them. It is the ONLY WAY we can guarantee the rump portions of Iraq do not become terrorist states.
What you propose means the liquidation of Iraq as a nation. Oh wait, it's only been a "nation" since Britain drew the borders, in what, 1921. Sounds like Yugoslavia being broken down into Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia & Herzegovina (BiH). Macedonia, Serbia and Kosovo, and the notion of "Iraq" dies, while the memory of the much prettier name of Mesopotamia lives on only in our memories.
Basrah and the South becomes part of Iran, and get the Southern oil fields, and the Western part becomes part of Sunni, and Kurdistan - you forgot the Kurds, oh well, everyone always does, right? - Kurdistan gets its own nation at last, and the oil fields at Mosul.
Of course the Sunnis will look at the partition, and scream, where's OUR share of Iraq's oil, there is not so much in the West, the Shiites and Kurds got the best parts.
But wait: Look at the map, what will be the western and east borders of Kurdistan? It should include Iranian Kurdistan, and Iran probably won't want to cede any land to that end. And Turkey, well, their record in the east of that country is less than stellar...anyone remember the Armenian genocide of 1915 Turkey to this day refuses to admit even happened? And over there they have FIERCELY kept the ungovernable Turkish Kurds under their heel since time immemorial, and THEY won't tolerate the loss of Eastern Turkey and the Kurdish capital there of Diyarbakir for one second.
The American troops are being decimated "death by a thousand cuts" every day.
I'd venture that the American public is exhausted with "staying the course".
Maybe it's really time to use some massive force to broker a geopolical reality, and see Iraq get carved up along religious linjes, with new borders drawn, with Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Syria and Iran FULLY involved in the process.
So much for O
Reign in Israel once and for all, no more death from above into suffering Lebanon, and the US, Iran and Syria support Siniora in Lebanon by giving Hizbollah no further military aid from Syria and Iran, which those countries would hopefully do, in return for expanding their influence into what was Iraq.