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Bellum omnium contra omnes, a Latin phrase meaning "the war of all against all", is the description that Thomas Hobbes gives to human existence in the state of nature thought experiment that he conducts in Leviathan (1651).

The thought experiment places people in a pre-social condition, and theorizes what would happen in such a condition. According to Hobbes, the outcome is that people choose to enter a social contract, giving up some of their liberties in order to enjoy peace. This thought experiment is a test for the legitimation of a state in fulfilling its role as "sovereign" to guarantee social order, and for comparing different types of states on that basis.

This Latin phrase is used by Karl Marx in On the Jewish Question when he says "It has become the spirit of civil society, of the sphere of egoism, of the bellum omnium contra omnes."
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Exactly. Bush has arranged for the rise of another totalitarian superpower on the planet, which will be financed by us. An interesting twist to Lenin's theory that we would sell the rope that we would be hanged with.
The real question here should be, why a Presidency by G.W. or other incompetent's is even possible in this Country?
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We the people actually accept that these pathetic marionettes ..GB, Kerry, Gore, Blair, Reagan, et al, are the best the republic/democracy's can throw up because plasma TV's are on sale NOW.

It won't stop until transparent accountability is DEMANDED from your representatives.


Meanwhile the country has been co-opted ! ! !
..whilst everyone has been mis-directed as in a crude conjurer's trick, squabbling about the 'Rep'ocrats' ...as they do here.








Ahhh fuck it, where's the remote ?

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Bellum omnium contra omnes, a Latin phrase meaning "the war of all against all", is the description that Thomas Hobbes gives to human existence in the state of nature thought experiment that he conducts in Leviathan (1651).

The thought experiment places people in a pre-social condition, and theorizes what would happen in such a condition. According to Hobbes, the outcome is that people choose to enter a social contract, giving up some of their liberties in order to enjoy peace. This thought experiment is a test for the legitimation of a state in fulfilling its role as "sovereign" to guarantee social order, and for comparing different types of states on that basis.

This Latin phrase is used by Karl Marx in On the Jewish Question when he says "It has become the spirit of civil society, of the sphere of egoism, of the bellum omnium contra omnes."
How original.

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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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It is the little people like you, ftl whose "cause" is powered by nothing more than distraction. This is nothing new, Hiyler did it, and has absolutly no function, let alone redeeming quality. The distraction you thrive on has so many people fooled that you are somebody worth listening to as proved out by your herd of sheep here on the "OT". One sheep, or more, go as far as sharing your avatar/sig (the hooded figure), talk about "original". You post of your membership in the aclu "thirty years"..... caught in a lie...again. Go ahead threaten my life, insult my dog, (you did ).

Maybe you should consider looking in the mirror and realize your lie of a life. Then you can go for a ride with Ted over some river or something.

My attempts to get along with you were greeted by your potty mouth...you are a sad, weak, little man maybe 24 years of age...ie "angry young man". I have mentored punks like you, with great success.....heck, one is now an exchange student in Europe.....what do you have to show for yourself? Thirty...I mean twenty years of a bullshit story, and thousands of posts of pure stupidity. GET A LIFE...OR THREATEN TO TAKE MINE! Its COWARDS like you who can hide as big mighty powerful people in "cyberspace"......I look forward to seeing you on DATELINE.

I am ready for your sheep (cloned) and their attack on a reasonable post....maybe you could talk about my dog!

Try harder on your next post.

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"It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."- Sam Clemens ;-)
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It is the little people like you, ftl whose "cause" is powered by nothing more than distraction. This is nothing new, Hiyler did it, and has absolutly no function, let alone redeeming quality. The distraction you thrive on has so many people fooled that you are somebody worth listening to as proved out by your herd of sheep here on the "OT". One sheep, or more, go as far as sharing your avatar/sig (the hooded figure), talk about "original". You post of your membership in the aclu "thirty years"..... caught in a lie...again. Go ahead threaten my life, insult my dog, (you did ).

Maybe you should consider looking in the mirror and realize your lie of a life. Then you can go for a ride with Ted over some river or something.

My attempts to get along with you were greeted by your potty mouth...you are a sad, weak, little man maybe 24 years of age...ie "angry young man". I have mentored punks like you, with great success.....heck, one is now an exchange student in Europe.....what do you have to show for yourself? Thirty...I mean twenty years of a bullshit story, and thousands of posts of pure stupidity. GET A LIFE...OR THREATEN TO TAKE MINE! Its COWARDS like you who can hide as big mighty powerful people in "cyberspace"......I look forward to seeing you on DATELINE.

I am ready for your sheep (cloned) and their attack on a reasonable post....maybe you could talk about my dog!

Try harder on your next post.

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