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So you would not want a jury trial? Heh, innocent until proven guilty.
I neither said nor implied that. However, jury selection would seem to be crucial if the OJ and MJ circuses are anything to go by.
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What is the issue here, age or severity of the crime commited?

If Klebot (sp) of the infamous Colimbine shooting were to live after his crime should he live, you and I could support his sorry ass, cause he is just a "child".

I say bull$hit. Its been long overdue to make it a MANDITORY life w/o possibility or death regardless of age when a "child" is involved in a murder. We, as a society, are too busy being weak and "touchy feely" to properly administer TRUE justice. Why has it become a priorty to concern ourselves with the criminal rather than his negative impact on society and his VICTIMS.

Weed the garden or the weeds will take over.


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What is the issue here, age or severity of the crime commited?

If Klebot (sp) of the infamous Colimbine shooting were to live after his crime should he live, you and I could support his sorry ass, cause he is just a "child".

I say bull$hit. Its been long overdue to make it a MANDITORY life w/o possibility or death regardless of age when a "child" is involved in a murder. We, as a society, are too busy being weak and "touchy feely" to properly administer TRUE justice. Why has it become a priorty to concern ourselves with the criminal rather than his negative impact on society and his VICTIMS.

Weed the garden or the weeds will take over.


As they say the ACLU has never met a criminal they didn't like.

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Well, Michael, I have been a member of the ACLU for over thirty years, and you are full of it. The only thing the ACLU is interested in is if the rights guaranteed you in the Bill of Rights has been violated. They leave this shit to Amnesty International or Human Rights Watch. Go back to Michael Savage, someday you'll wake up to the fact the ACLU has been protecting YOU.

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Oh holy crap! You must be kidding me You a member of the ACLU! Gee I am so darn impressed! Its you lowlife, trash rescueing, dirtbags that are DIRECTLY responsible for dictating the fall of decency in our society.

I felt free to use discriptive words due to your disregard for me in your post.

I am afraid you pondscum clowns days are numbered, the UPSTANDING people in society are near the saturation point of the ACLU antics.

30 years....gee you must be proud!

Don't ever be concerned about my feelings...your group did not when Jeff's killer, a LOVED relative, was "rescued" by you self serving assholes.

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Problem is the 12 smucks don't know that the kid is being tried as an adult or what the sentence will be. Prosecutor decides to try them as adults, and then when convicted judge has no discretion in sentencing.

Colorado citizens don't trust themselves. That's why we have term limits, mandatory sentences, punitive damages caps (1x actuals) and this goofy abortion of a juvenile justice system.
It wouldn't matter. Over the last 10 years, Colorado has proven itself as a haven for degenerates and total fucking morons (present company excluded, of course).

Case after case after case of shocking crimes and behavior, followed by indifference on behalf of the affected communities. I've no sympathy for any of them.

Looks as if FTL and I finally agree on something...it's funny to me how many 'liberals' are of the "thin the herd" mentality as it applies to crime & capital punishment. How very conservative of you!
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Oh holy crap! You must be kidding me You a member of the ACLU! Gee I am so darn impressed! Its you lowlife, trash rescueing, dirtbags that are DIRECTLY responsible for dictating the fall of decency in our society.

I felt free to use discriptive words due to your disregard for me in your post.

I am afraid you pondscum clowns days are numbered, the UPSTANDING people in society are near the saturation point of the ACLU antics.

30 years....gee you must be proud!

Don't ever be concerned about my feelings...your group did not when Jeff's killer, a LOVED relative, was "rescued" by you self serving assholes.

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It wouldn't matter. Over the last 10 years, Colorado has proven itself as a haven for degenerates and total fucking morons (present company excluded, of course).

Case after case after case of shocking crimes and behavior, followed by indifference on behalf of the affected communities. I've no sympathy for any of them.

Looks as if FTL and I finally agree on something...it's funny to me how many 'liberals' are of the "thin the herd" mentality as it applies to crime & capital punishment. How very conservative of you!
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Oh holy crap! You must be kidding me You a member of the ACLU! Gee I am so darn impressed! Its you lowlife, trash rescueing, dirtbags that are DIRECTLY responsible for dictating the fall of decency in our society.

I felt free to use discriptive words due to your disregard for me in your post.

I am afraid you pondscum clowns days are numbered, the UPSTANDING people in society are near the saturation point of the ACLU antics.

30 years....gee you must be proud!

Don't ever be concerned about my feelings...your group did not when Jeff's killer, a LOVED relative, **********was "rescued" by you self serving assholes.

Michael

My mistake, "who's killer" should have been in my text.

A bit of a hot, ugly subject matter for me and my family.

ACLU SUX!

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Well, Michael, I have been a member of the ACLU for over thirty years, and you are full of it. The only thing the ACLU is interested in is if the rights guaranteed you in the Bill of Rights has been violated.
As they interpret them, of course.

"We believe that the constitutional right to bear arms is primarily a collective one..."

http://www.aclu.org/police/gen/14523res20020304.html

Which other Constitutional rights are "collective" and not individual according to the ACLU?
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