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Fucking liberals crying again....click on the triangle to get the video playing.

All your democratic big shots supported the war....who the hell are you guys trying to kid?

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And they managed the war as well? The Democrats disbanded the Iraqi police? The Iraqi Army and government? The Democrats ordered the troops to stand by as the country was looted to the walls, demonstrating to the insurgents we would not be able to maintain order in Iraq? The Democrats sent only 140,000 troops? The Democrats allowed Moqtar Al Sadr to form a militia of 100,000 men? The Democrats allowed the recognition of Islam as the official religion of Iraq to be written into the Iraqi constitution? The Democrats ordered an invasion when the UN Weapons inspectors asked for six more weeks to prove Iraq had no WMDs? The Democrats ordered the US Armed Forces to invade Iraq in defiance of the UN? The Democrats used an alliance of third-rate countries to invade Iraq instead of a UN Coalition? Tell me my friend, what else did the nasty old democrats do while you people turned this into the greatest cluster fuck in American history?

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Doesn't seem like a bad plan at this point. Oh yeah, stfu you god damn troll. You are a complete waste of time.
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The simple question is what is to be gained by staying? The Iranians, by intrigue and familiarity with the culture, will take whatever time we choose to stay there to solidify their hold over Shiite Iraq, creating a massive fifth column that will simply vote in an Islamic Republic the day we eventually leave and be the de facto shadow government while we are there. Our commanders on the ground already admit that Anbar, the Sunni section of Iraq, is actually governed by the Baathists or Al Queda, and there is not enough US troops to do anything about it. The Kurds, while remaining our friends, create enormous diplomatic difficulties for us. At this point, the best thing we could do for everyone is go to the UN and admit we were wrong, and see if we can get some help, or get the fuck out of Iraq.

The third alternative, for the US to actually fight a war there, is politically impossible what with the right wing now adopting the position of 70s peaceniks with their anti-draft self serving agenda, and while the same bunch of fascist stooges make getting on a real war footing impossible with their selfish tax cuts and refusal to tax gasoline to the point people will find some other form of energy so we do not have to depend on our enemies. Since actual all-out war with an occupation of Iraq by at least 500,000 US troops is impossible due to the intransigence of the rightwingers who have clusterfucked this war, the death of our men is a moral abomination caused by them. It is the morally correct thing for the Democrats to do whatever they can to make this murder caused by rightwing Republitarians come to a stop. Half a war fought by greedy, self serving "patriot" shitheads who gooble their cheap gas and enjoy their sweet tax cuts while drinking the blood of our children has just about ruined this country. It is going to stop.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address

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The Bush Plan for staying in Iraq:


Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Half a war fought by greedy, self serving "patriot" shitheads who gooble their cheap gas and enjoy their sweet tax cuts while drinking the blood of our children has just about ruined this country. It is going to stop.
Damn, finally waking up to the Muslim way of thinking, Self serving? totally. Care about other countries or their people? not on your life. Something I have learned over time here as well.

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Maureen Dowd Links Bush to O.J.: If a Civil War Fits, You Can't Acquit

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Published: November 24, 2006 11:35 PM ET

NEW YORK With a timely reference to the rise and fall of the O.J. Simpson tell-some book (and what she's calls the "Thanksgiving Day Massacre" in Iraq) Maureen Dowd in her Saturday column for The New York Times suggests that President Bush go on Fox News and declare, "IF I did it -- here’s how the civil war in Iraq happened.”

Bush, she writes, "could describe, hypothetically, a series of naïve, arrogant and self-defeating blunders, including his team’s failure to comprehend that in the Arab world, revenge and religious zealotry can be stronger compulsions than democracy and prosperity." Is she suggesting that Bush, like O.J., has gotten away with murder?

Dowd also reveals that her own paper, along with other news outlets, "have been figuring out if it’s time to break with the administration’s use of euphemisms like 'sectarian conflict.' How long can you have an ever-descending descent without actually reaching the civil war?

"Some analysts are calling it genocide or clash of civilizations, arguing that civil war is too genteel a term for the butchery that is destroying a nation before our very eyes....

"It will be harder to sell Congress on the idea that America’s troops should be in the middle of somebody else’s civil war than to convince them that we need to hang tough in the so-called front line of the so-called war on terror against Al Qaeda."

Sen. Chuck Hagel, the Republican from Nebraska, in an op-ed for The Washington Post today, calls for preparing a U.S. pullout in Iraq.

Dowd, meanwhile, hits Bush for his "preposterous" lessons learned in Vietnam, and Tony Snow for "ludicrous" hair-splitting in denying a civil war: "Mr. Snow has said this is not a civil war because the fighting is not taking place in every province and because Iraqis voted in free elections. But that’s like saying that the Battle of Gettysburg only took place in one small corner of the country, so there was no real American Civil War. And there were elections during our civil war too. President Lincoln was re-elected months before the war’s end."

The questions, she concludes, "are no longer whether there’s a civil war or whether we can achieve a military victory. The only question is, who can we turn the country over to?

"At the moment, that would be no one."

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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That's about right, Bush killed nicole! why couldn't we see this earlier?

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That's about right, Bush killed nicole! why couldn't we see this earlier?

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