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Virtually none, which is why we aren't called "USAStar". Easy to criticize capitalism/libertarianism from Alaska. Have you received your annual oil revenue stipend yet?

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Virtually none, which is why we aren't called "USAStar". Easy to criticize capitalism/libertarianism from Alaska. Have you received your annual oil revenue stipend yet?

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Market driven capitalism would require that they receive enough money to live, else they will die, and there will be no one to do the job, right? That doesn't mean they have some entitlement to enough wage to feed and house a family of four (or even two).
When you are talking about that bottom 5% that is just above educable/trainable for whatever reason, or has “crashed” for some reason [medical, drugs, prison, depression, DGAF] most communities make provisions for the that group via group homes, halfway houses or community living.

However, due to community standards, lifestyles and other reasons, there are MANY single mothers out there trying to make it by themselves. While that mother may not have an “entitlement” to a higher living wage, the children that she supports and is raising do not deserve a shunning by a tightwad society that just wants to keep buying $9 jeans at Walmart because a Living Wage is inconvenient. The long term ramifications of that shunning approach is far more expensive to society.

American society, by evolution and its Christian background, has, until very recently chosen to address the needs of those who cannot take care of themselves. We as a society are, in fact, judged by how well we take care of those who have the least. That has been a canon condition of American society and of societies throughout history.

It seems so strange to me that anyone who is on a Mercedes forum would give a second thought to providing a Living Wage to those on the lower rungs of the ladder. Those of us who have climbed the ladder and succeeded have done so with the help of many people, and that help came in many different ways. None of us succeeded by ourselves. How then one can look at a Living Wage and question the validity of putting a roof over one’s head or food on the family table is beyond me. The zeal of finding $9.00 jeans and a $349 LCD TV can’t be that much that all fairness to everyone else goes away. That just can’t be.

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When you are talking about that bottom 5% that is just above educable/trainable for whatever reason, or has “crashed” for some reason [medical, drugs, prison, depression, DGAF] most communities make provisions for the that group via group homes, halfway houses or community living.

However, due to community standards, lifestyles and other reasons, there are MANY single mothers out there trying to make it by themselves. While that mother may not have an “entitlement” to a higher living wage, the children that she supports and is raising do not deserve a shunning by a tightwad society that just wants to keep buying $9 jeans at Walmart because a Living Wage is inconvenient. The long term ramifications of that shunning approach is far more expensive to society.

American society, by evolution and its Christian background, has, until very recently chosen to address the needs of those who cannot take care of themselves. We as a society are, in fact, judged by how well we take care of those who have the least. That has been a canon condition of American society and of societies throughout history.

It seems so strange to me that anyone who is on a Mercedes forum would give a second thought to providing a Living Wage to those on the lower rungs of the ladder. Those of us who have climbed the ladder and succeeded have done so with the help of many people, and that help came in many different ways. None of us succeeded by ourselves. How then one can look at a Living Wage and question the validity of putting a roof over one’s head or food on the family table is beyond me. The zeal of finding $9.00 jeans and a $349 LCD TV can’t be that much that all fairness to everyone else goes away. That just can’t be.
If states or individual communities want to go that route by popular demand, then fine. I have no problem with communities taking care of their own, that is in part what communities are for. I do not want it on a national level. I am much more comfortable with the minimalist simplicity of market driven capitalism.

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Virtually none, which is why we aren't called "USAStar". Easy to criticize capitalism/libertarianism from Alaska. Have you received your annual oil revenue stipend yet?
Yes,I received the dividends and that money is right back into the local economy.

I was only curious if any of the remanufactured parts you sell are done so in the US or are they done in Mexico or etc based on the high rate of unemployment in Arizona.

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Yes,I received the dividends and that money is right back into the local economy.

I was only curious if any of the remanufactured parts you sell are done so in the US or are they done in Mexico or etc based on the high rate of unemployment in Arizona.
All the reman stuff we do is stateside (none in AZ, though), and that does represent a substantial portion of our business.

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If states or individual communities want to go that route by popular demand, then fine. I have no problem with communities taking care of their own, that is in part what communities are for. I do not want it on a national level. I am much more comfortable with the minimalist simplicity of market driven capitalism.
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To back up my suspicion regarding the veracity of that quote, from Wiki:

"According to the Falsely Attributed Quotations page at the Churchill Centre, "there is no record of anyone hearing Churchill say this." Paul Addison of Edinburgh University is quoted as stating: "Surely Churchill can't have used the words attributed to him. He'd been a Conservative at 15 and a Liberal at 35! And would he have talked so disrespectfully of Clemmie, who is generally thought to have been a lifelong Liberal?"
Also variously attributed to George Bernard Shaw and Benjamin Disraeli and Otto von Bismarck"

You must remember we have here a Conservative party and a Liberal party, which is subtly different to being liberal or conservative in the broad sense.
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Who are the throngs of thugs swarming into Wal Mart in a stampede upon the store(s) opening on the so-called Black Friday?
I am glad there is no Wal Mart in New York City. Although there are stores elsewhere in Long Island, efforts to open a Wal Mart in Brooklyn have met widespread opposition by Brooklynites.
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