Originally Posted by DaveN007
Political tags are too emotionally charged to evaluate objectively.
Might as well just call those you disagree with "fuck-faces" as many around here do. It cuts right to the chase.
One is either a "thoughful commentator" or a "fuck-face".
The more insightful I am in my posts, the more of a "stooge" I become.
But enough about me, how do you like my shoes?
The root of the word "facism" is the Roman symbol for "the law and authority". It is a bundle of stick tied together with an axe head in the middle.
The symbolism: Individually we are weak, but together we are strong.
My "conservative identity" is rooted in the power of the individual. Not the group. Individual effort driven by individual incentive. Economies and markets driven by individual demands.
It does not take a "village". A village is what you get when you add up all of the selfish actions of individuals.
It "gets" a village. (My phrase...just thought of it.)
Where my conservative beliefs intersect with facism, I don't see.
I think the problem is in the use of the word Conservative [I can see trouble brewing]. The NeoCon [NewConfused] movement of the past 25 years is a strange tangent to the Conservative Movement. Much of the anger and angst that is focused against the NeoCons is based on philosophies that, in truth, are not really Conservative. Now, J would stomp up and down and disagree but the current Administration lacks many of the criteria that define Conservative AND in fact, he, and the NeoCons incorporates many of the “it takes a village” axioms to heart and propagate them. As examples, we nation build, we “push” our agenda to the world. We built debt for all of us to pay, we pushed an “us vs. them nationalism. We define the “village”.
While the Conservative that you defined is an individual. The NeoCon is very much a Fascist by common definition. The NeoCon Movement took over the Conservative Movement and changed is so much that it became much of what it fought. Talk about IRONY.
So the question becomes, who here is a NeoCon, who is a Conservative. Lists taken from Wikipedia
No Intrusive Foreign Policy
*original theses on Neoconservative movement did not mention Foreign policy.
So how do NeoCons [NewConfused] compare with Fascists, here is the definition from the guy that wrote the book on Fascists. See how many match up.
Fascism is a set of ideologies and practices that seeks to place the nation, defined in exclusive biological, cultural, and/or historical terms, above all other sources of loyalty, and to create a mobilized national community. Fascist hostility to socialism and feminism, for they are seen as prioritizing class or gender rather than nation. This is why fascism is a movement of the extreme right. Fascism is also a movement of the radical right because the defeat of socialism and feminism and the creation of the mobilized nation are held to depend upon the advent to power of a new elite acting in the name of the people, headed by a charismatic leader, and embodied in a mass, militarized party. Fascists are pushed towards conservatism by common hatred of socialism and feminism, but are prepared to override conservative interests - family, property, religious, the universities, the civil service - where the interests of the nation are considered to require it. Fascist radicalism also derives from a desire to assuage discontent by accepting specific demands of the labour and women's movements, so long as these demands accord with the national priority. Fascists seek to ensure the harmonization of workers' and women's interests with those of the nation by mobilizing them within special sections of the party and/or within a corporate system. Access to these organizations and to the benefits they confer upon members depends on the individual's national, political, and/or racial characteristics. All aspects of fascist policy are suffused with ultranationalism. Kevin Passmore- Fascism: A Very Short Introduction Cardiff University.