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as for the mid-term election mistakes, I believe we will all pay for that for a long time coming.
lol.. now hopefuly we're actually gonna fix a few things.. i hope they start with shrubco.

i still don't think withdrawal from iraq is the right move.. actually i think we need to send in more for a time being. letting the baathists back into government was finally about the first good idea since this whole fiasco began.
executing saddam will only hurt also, imho.



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All through the 1990's the military experimented with designs of bunker-buster bombs, including designs for a nuke-tipped device.

Early in Dubyuh's first term Rumsfeld sent a proposal up to Congress and it had maybe 2-3 days of airtime on prime-time. IIRC they were told to develop but not deploy a nuke bunker-buster.

I think it's one of those missiles that has a vertical trajectory and just before it hits the Earth a booster fires slamming the hardened nose of the missile into the ground at extremely high velocity then when it stops the bomb is triggered a couple hundred feet underground.

It's kind of analogous to a depth charge, destroying underground spaces with a tremendous compression wave.
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All through the 1990's the military experimented with designs of bunker-buster bombs, including designs for a nuke-tipped device.

Early in Dubyuh's first term Rumsfeld sent a proposal up to Congress and it had maybe 2-3 days of airtime on prime-time. IIRC they were told to develop but not deploy a nuke bunker-buster.

I think it's one of those missiles that has a vertical trajectory and just before it hits the Earth a booster fires slamming the hardened nose of the missile into the ground at extremely high velocity then when it stops the bomb is triggered a couple hundred feet underground.

It's kind of analogous to a depth charge, destroying underground spaces with a tremendous compression wave.
My guess is if such a bombing beauty exists, Israel has it and they are more likely than us/US to use it in Iran...

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My guess is if such a bombing beauty exists, Israel has it and they are more likely than us/US to use it in Iran...
It exists, the basic technology was there back in the 60's, slight modifications to that tech, and we are in business. They have already admitted that we can get conventional 5,000 lb. bunker busters down to over 100 feet in plain soil, bigger ones will go much deeper. Nukes don't have to go as deep as you might think to get a kill, but the fallout from one will be outrageous.
Some of you might recall the "Dirty Harry" blast in Nevada some years back, the radioactive fallout was severe. There was grave concern that the Strontium 90 in cows milk all the way up in New York State was bad enough to have the government condemn it.
Read "The Day We Bombed Utah" (I believe that's correct) the fallout in Saint George, Utah has been pretty severe from the underground testing in Nevada.

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Some of you might recall the "Dirty Harry" blast in Nevada some years back, the radioactive fallout was severe. There was grave concern that the Strontium 90 in cows milk all the way up in New York State was bad enough to have the government condemn it.

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My guess is if such a bombing beauty exists, Israel has it and they are more likely than us/US to use it in Iran...
Jay, you could be right, of course I do not believe that Israel takes a big crap without clearing it within some level of the US govt.. That said, if we did use it, it would not be the 1st time the US has used something and denied it later.

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Jay, you could be right, of course I do not believe that Israel takes a big crap without clearing it within some level of the US govt.. That said, if we did use it, it would not be the 1st time the US has used something and denied it later.
My guess is we'd want plausible deniability, but Israel would have to coordinate w/ us to fly over or even around our military in the region.

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