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No plan?

http://www.democrats.org/a/2006/10/100_hours_with.php

If Democrats win a majority in the House of Representatives, the first 100 hours under would-be Speaker Pelosi would look like this:

Day One: Put new rules in place to "break the link between lobbyists and legislation."
Day Two: Enact all the recommendations made by the commission that investigated the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Time remaining until 100 hours: Raise the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour, maybe in one step. Cut the interest rate on student loans in half. Allow the government to negotiate directly with the pharmaceutical companies for lower drug prices for Medicare patients.

Broaden the types of stem cell research allowed with federal funds _ "I hope with a veto-proof majority," she added in an Associated Press interview Thursday.

All the days after that: "Pay as you go," meaning no increasing the deficit, whether the issue is middle class tax relief, health care or some other priority.


There are 8 days to turn this from a dream into a reality. Make it happen, one seat at a time, by getting out the vote where you live.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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I would think you can see a plan from that list.

First would be an Endgame for Iraq which covers two of the points.
Second would be addressing skyrocketing healthcare costs [that could be from either tort reform, cost ceilings, prescription plans, or, at an extreme, a never will be passed National Health Program]
Third would be addressing energy needs other than by providing Exxon with an office in the White House. That covers two of the points on your list. Those needs could be addressed by increasing CAFE rates, enhancing alternative fuels opportunities.
Fourth would be to eliminate tax breaks to those who need them the least and start addressing the tax burden brought on by $9T Debt. [$450B per year off the top]
Fifth would increase Minimum wages to make a Living Wage the law instead of a number that was last addressed eight years ago when gas was $1.40 gal.

Now just from that list there are FIVE pretty solid planks to a Platform so I don't see where you get "No Plan" from.
I would Love a plan to bring our service men & women home!
why is "skyrocketing " healthcare the repubs fault?
are you suggesting oil prices & gas are the result of repubs? (suv please)
the wealthy pay out the ass for taxes while the lower class pay nearly nothing wtf are we to cut from nothing?
Minimum wage is an election scare tactic and does nothing to bridge to middle class gap.

we all want a better world, I believe you do too. oust all of 'em and start over
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Looks close to a Democratic love feast here. I soon expect Feel the Love wilbe doing more than just feeling, he looks destined to be the pivot man in the circle jerk of DEMS.

I detest the war in Iraq as much as the next guy but what happens when we pull out and Iran's bullies finally take over Iraq and shut off the oil taps? Price of Oil goes where?

Hey I have just as much feeling for my fellow man than everyone else here but if we raise the minimum wage a huge amount overnight it may not be the best thing for the country.

And as far as all the other socials programs that are desperately needed in the States such as a National Health Program, Raising taxes to pay for all of these new found goodies and revamping of the Social security system ect ect.

All of these thigns listed above cost money, and I am honestly afraid if to much is done to fast then Inflation will be right around the corner.
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Jak-off, thanks for showing just what you Repugs are about - trading dead kids for oil.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
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Time remaining until 100 hours: Raise the minimum wage to $7.25 an hour, maybe in one step.

Haha,the minimum wage is already that much here in Alaska

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When I got home and check my mail I found a mailer with those words on them.
here goes;

Endless war in Iraq
Skyrocketing health care costs
Inflated gas prices
$8 trillion debt from a $1trillion surplus
Increased dependency on oil
Lies about WMD's and Iraqi ties to Al Qaida
Tax Breaks to Millionaires and corporations
No increase in minimum wage
Threat of privatizing Social Security
Congressional cover up of the sexual abuse of teens

Fucking liberal douche bags! they run on the I don't have a plan and republicans are scary ticket.
Democrats are the fucking have NOTS. All they do is cry about shit because they are uneducated and cannot get a job.

Tax Breaks to Millionaires and corporations: That's one of the best things that can happen. What does a major corporation do when it gets a tax break? They build new locations which in turn provide new jobs. Also, with tax breaks they give employees higher wages so the money gets pumped right back into the economy.

No increase in minimum wage: So, who gives a shit. If you look at it from an economics point of view it is not beneficial to raise the minimum wage. Who the fuck works for minimum wage anyway? Instead of McDonald's having 10 Mexicans working for 5 dollars an hour, they will now only have 7 Mexicans working for 6 dollars in hour. Are they really that stupid? Now the unemployement rate will skyrocket and the Democrats will blame Bush for that shit too.

Increased dependency on oil: Well I'm sure when a Democrat gets into office the next day we'll be driving cars running on air.

PEOPLE, IF YOU WANT LOWER TAXES YOU VOTE REPUBLICAN.
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Your screed might make sense if it had only not missed the fact that Repiglican tax cuts have been financed with borrowed money. In any other culture, it would be called "stealing".

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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Your screed might make sense if it had only not missed the fact that Repiglican tax cuts have been financed with borrowed money. In any other culture, it would be called "stealing".
Does the average Joe care whether the money was borrowed or not? I bet he/she cares how much of that borrowed money they have in their pocket.

Whether it's borrowed or not a Republicans still give tax cuts while Democrats want to raise taxes to fund their "save the whales and the earth" campaign.
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FTL, I'm coming to Texas just to take you to a titty bar and see if we can get you laid.
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Why vote Democrat? Because you're still dazed enough to believe that the 2-party system is useful and meaningful, and you're presently fed up with the demo, er republican party...uh, what's the difference, again?



For any major party candidate, regardless of party affiliation:

Job one: get elected (or re-elected)

Job two: pork barrel projects for constituents (thus leading to future electivity) that have no significance to the vast majority of US citizens -- including one's own constituents (other than wasting money)

Job three: see job one.

Job four: Complain that the reason you can't do more for people is the other party.

Job five: see job one.

Job six: hide all the illegal and immoral crap you do from everyone you can. Any and all methods and means are permissible, so long as your focus is on job one.

Job seven: see job one.

Job eight: get jobs for all your friends, cronies, contributors and slack-brained relatives.

Job nine: see job one.

Job ten: distance yourself from anyone or anything for whom surfaces any meaningful evidence of the items in Job six. Any means or method of distancing yourself is permissible, so long as your focus is on job one.

Job eleven: see job one.

Job twelve: support meaningless, moronic legislation so long as (1) the average person can't really understand it and (2) the lobbyists are helping you line your featherbed.

Job thirteen: Hmmm...thirteen is an unlucky number. Well, historically so, anyway. And I'm not saying that it is necessarily and significantly much more so than any other number, but I would have trouble embracing it whole-heartedly without a study of its effects and dis-effects upon my constituents. In fact, I'm going on a fact-finding trip to Hawaii, Fiji and Milan to determine how deep this issue goes.

Job fourteen: see job one.

And on and on indefinitely...


Not that I'm cynical or anything...



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Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. (Winston Churchill)
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