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You REALLY need to work on your READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS. If you got that I said anything close to Rove saying the Kerry comment, I am beginning to question even you and Harvard Community College, home of the Fighting Obfuscators…Gooooo F O!!!
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I think the Kerry mis-speak is a nice little Rorschach Test of how people look at events. It is not really a rehash of 04, just a exercise for those of us who look at these things from different angles.
"the Kerry mis-speak..." You keep saying that he mis-spoke yet you claim not to be making excuses for him. He said exactly what meant to say, and now he and you are trying to pretend it was just a mistake. It just doesn't wash.

I hear he was for the joke before he was against it...

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It is what it is, ONLY if taken out of context, and tweaked. If the mis-statement [botched joke] was a stand alone comment, that would be one thing, but in the body of a 30 minute speech, it is in a totally different context. When placed by the original joke, which has been around for a couple of years on Lib web sites in various forms, it OBVIOUSLY is taken out of context and tweaked.

So, the only way that Kerry's comments could be insulting and shameful would be if he made the comments, stand alone, vetted and posted and stood by them. That would be insulting and shameful. Obviously, none of that has occurred and a reasonable person would infer that the comments were as he corrected, "a poor, botched joke about the administration".

"Do you know where you end up if you don't study, if you aren't smart, if you're intellectually lazy? You end up *getting us* stuck in a war in Iraq."

As for my time in Viet Nam and Kerry's comments. I have read and listened to most everything he said on the subject and agree with most of it. Some was said for emotion and political spin but most was grounded in fact.
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I can only guess which definition you intend, but will assume you mean that I am one who is highly esteemed or favored. Thank you!

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A friend opined that some Democrat candidates are using this as their, "Sistah Soljah" moment.
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I can only guess which definition you intend, but will assume you mean that I am one who is highly esteemed or favored. Thank you!
In modern English the word minion almost always refers to a person of a lower order, especially in relation to work.

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In modern English the word minion almost always refers to a person of a lower order, especially in relation to work.
There are many definitions of minion. That is the one provided by

min·ion (mnyn)
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  • One who is highly esteemed or favored; a darling.

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There are many definitions of minion. That is the one provided by

min·ion (mnyn)
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  • One who is highly esteemed or favored; a darling.
You forgot the other two

min·ion (mĭn'yən)
n.
  1. An obsequious follower or dependent; a sycophant.
  2. A subordinate official, especially a servile one.
  3. One who is highly esteemed or favored; a darling.
[French mignon, darling, from Old French mignot, mignon.]

The word Minion is recorded in English since 1501, "a favorite; a darling; a low dependant; one who pleases rather than benefits", from M.Fr. mignon means a favorite, pet or spoiled person. The word is adapted from the Middle French mignon "a favorite, darling", also "dainty, pleasing, favorite" as an adjective, from Old French mignot, itself possibly from Italian mignone. Anyway the ultimate origin is doubtful- connections with the Old High German minna 'love' and with a Celtic root min- 'small' have been suggested. It was used without disparaging overtones in the 16th-17th centuries.

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You forgot the other two

min·ion (mĭn'yən)
n.
  1. An obsequious follower or dependent; a sycophant.
  2. A subordinate official, especially a servile one.
  3. One who is highly esteemed or favored; a darling.
[French mignon, darling, from Old French mignot, mignon.].....
But #3 is the only one that correctly identifies me...

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