Date registered: Sep 2004
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Originally Posted by Professor
Yep, specially when you agreed with bot on torture. I laughed so hard that I felt it was torture
Well, I don't agree, I am just realistic enough to admit that this stuff sometimes happens. Even the Nuremburg judges granted that torture sometimes takes place because of what they termed as "battlefield necessity", in other words, if you think you are walking your platoon into an ambush, and a prisoner who knows where it is going to be falls into your hands, the emotions and necessity of the moment may be a defense for using torture. But these are all emotional and psychologically based defenses, equivalent to civilian court's "temporary insanity". If I had a terrorist in my custody and I felt he held a secret that the revealing of would save lives, even tho I would commit an illegal act by pouring Drano in one of his eyeballs followed by a deal he could not refuse to save himself from blindness and more excuriating pain, a court would probably see my point. But what I am against is making it a matter of policy - in other words removing the cultural definition of this behavior as insane or barbaric in nature. But I must admit, if an FBI agent slowly pushed someone's penis thru a deli slicer to save my kid, I would not be against it, for the moment at least. But it needs to be illegal, so we have some deterrent against it's more frivolous uses, like the Chicago cops use on people with parking tickets. In other words, I am in favor of the "Dirty Harry with Scorpio on the ball field" solution, that contained one of his more memorable lines as he was about to grind his heel in the unfortunate serial killer's gun shot wound: "Take a hike fatso".
Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.
-President Barack Obama, 1st Inaugural address
Last edited by FeelTheLove; 10-28-2006 at 05:04 PM.