Originally Posted by JimSmith
Seems to me there should be some way to baptize them after the fact, considering they played no part in the sequence of events. Or grant them some "grace" period after birth if the mother was baptized. Like the way they have an immune system that is borrowed from the mother until they stop breast feeding. The logic of insisting an infant is somehow barred from heaven because some human ritual, a responsibility of adults, was not carried out is absurd. I would be in favor of the Pope coming up with some reasoned way to explain an "out" so the parents of these unfortunate babies are not further tortured by the death of their child. Jim
The problem with your argument is that you're rational, and you aren't trying to play mind games with an entire population as a means to control them and abscond with large sums of their money.
The "logic" based on Cathecism (sp?) is that all humans are born with "original sin" - this is what the 'loving' God bestowed upon humanity after Eve totally fucked Adam over, and before their incestuous/oedipal behavior spawned the remainder of our race. So we're already off to a running start down the path to hell, so to speak, thanks to an antiquated belief in the Old Testament as being a non-fiction, non-negotiable guidebook for all time.
So the only way to cleanse ones self of "original sin" is baptism. Before you can go to Heaven, you must be cleansed of sin. If you die before this happens, you're fucked - it's at death, so Catholicism has implied all these years, that your soul is freed from your human body and "goes" somewhere
. Maybe there's a great set of bars & bowling alleys in Limbo-ville, and the babies are having a great time of it. Obviously they understood that sending the babies straight to Hell was a non-starter, since it's impossible for them to have done anything wrong personally
The logical outcome of this is that it's one's personal sins that prevent them from getting into Heaven, and the concept of original sin was a big misunderstanding. Shortly thereafter, you hear the entire Catholic infrastructure collapse in on itself (it was a house of cards anyway), since without baptism, the Catholic church really doesn't add any value to one's life. Seriously, who is going to select Catholicism as their religion of choice on it's merits?