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Ok am I nuts or What?

Ok quick short sweet history first ... I been living in Upstate Ny for the last 21 years and been at the same Job for the last 11 years and Now I just got this wild hair up my you know what.
I have an offer to move to Salt Lake City area work for the same company I currently work for with an 20k increase over what I do now and No I am not a Mormon (LDS they call it?) So whats in it for me besides the pay increase? nothing. but I want to do it!
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Go west young man, go west! Better weather, better scenery, less people. Most would do it for less money.

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do you have kids? wife? boyfriend? Anything to hold you in place?
20K is not a motivator, you will also have to consider the cost of living wherever you may be going.
In addition you need to find out if the additional 20K means more work and responsibilities. If it is then weigh in your quality time (time for yourslef). There no point in working like a dog for little change but if you are going to make a difference through leadership or accomplishments then 20K is just a start and you should think long term. The last thing you want is be stuck after that raise.
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you "can" have 2 wifes.



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do you have kids? wife? boyfriend? Anything to hold you in place?
20K is not a motivator, you will also have to consider the cost of living wherever you may be going.
In addition you need to find out if the additional 20K means more work and responsibilities. If it is then weigh in your quality time (time for yourslef). There no point in working like a dog for little change but if you are going to make a difference through leadership or accomplishments then 20K is just a start and you should think long term. The last thing you want is be stuck after that raise.
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Uh, I assure you the cost of living in Utah is much lower than in NY. And unless he's currently living someplace really special, the quality of life in Utah is better as well. Screw leadership or accomplishments -- life is for living!

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GS I agree but you have to consider his objectives. He has to figure out what's important, I merely mentioned drivers to consider. Notice that the last thing to consider is the actual 20K increase because it does not mean much in the long term.
On second thought maybe I should move AZ and sell my house here in MD. What can I get for a lttle under 700K? (That would be the figure I would clear if I sold this house and I would love to live mortgage free so no capital gain here either).
Next, how's the night life in your neck of the woods? (you see where my priorities are)
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Ok No Kids and for damn sure no boyfriend not into that .... Girlfriends? I carry a baseball bat to deal with them... Just kidding I'm currently single the Job is the same as I do now however it will be at a place that is like my place was 5 years ago and I will be working to bring it up to standards and the company pays for total relocation. as for night life its ok here lots of flakes and pretentious people along with piles of look at me's and if you want girls who's only reason they have interest is there is a chance so they think your money will rub off in to their hands if they toss a favor or two .....

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Ok quick short sweet history first ... I been living in Upstate Ny for the last 21 years and been at the same Job for the last 11 years and Now I just got this wild hair up my you know what.
I have an offer to move to Salt Lake City area work for the same company I currently work for with an 20k increase over what I do now and No I am not a Mormon (LDS they call it?) So whats in it for me besides the pay increase? nothing. but I want to do it!

salt lick city is land of the mormons...
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Just a few thoughts...in no particular order.

If you're in the greater Salt Lake area, the LDS influence is still significant, but last I heard almost half the metro-area population is not LDS. As you move to the smaller towns away from SLC the LDS percentage takes off.

If you're a skier you'll love it; in 40 minutes or less from SLC you can be in Park City and Deer Valley, and from there some of the best skiing in the world is not much further. (Snowbird, Alta...the list goes on.)

The cold in SLC is a "dry cold", not the bone-chilling dampness of some areas.

Utah generally is much less politically charged than where you are, or even this forum.

I've never been to upstate NY, but if you're satisfied with your quality of life and like it there, why bother? Moving sucks.

You might try seeing if your employer would let you do it on a trial basis, say for a month, keeping your salary the same, but they rent you a decent motel or corporate townhouse/suite and a car. Check the area out, if you like it firm up the deal, if not, bug out. You've been with them long enough they know you're a valuable employee, they should be willing to work with you if they really want you there.

You'll need a 4matic if not an ML; I've heard that RWD MBZs don't fare well on snowy and slick roads.

If you're a drinker their laws will take some getting used to. There are no bars in the conventional sense, you have to join private clubs or do your drinking at home with liquor you buy from a state-run liquor store. One work-around is that you're considered a "member" when you patronize a restaurant bar, so long as your intent is to have a drink before and after dinner. Restaurants that don't serve liquor, you're permitted to carry in your bottle but they charge you a decent "setup" or "corking" fee.

If you want to get away you're very close to a major airport. You're not terribly far from a geographic center so it's only a few hours in any direction to anyplace in the continental US. SLC has some very good airfares and typically has the cheapest car rental rates I've ever seen.

You'll need to buy a big place because everyone you know -- including those of us on the forum -- will want to come visit you.

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GS I agree but you have to consider his objectives. He has to figure out what's important, I merely mentioned drivers to consider. Notice that the last thing to consider is the actual 20K increase because it does not mean much in the long term.
On second thought maybe I should move AZ and sell my house here in MD. What can I get for a lttle under 700K? (That would be the figure I would clear if I sold this house and I would love to live mortgage free so no capital gain here either).
Next, how's the night life in your neck of the woods? (you see where my priorities are)
That's about what mine's worth (about $725K). 2600 sq. ft., 3-car garage, separate observatory on premises, up high on a ridgeline 1/4 mile from a mountain range with a view so spectacular that people regularly stop and take pics from the road in front of my house. Property taxes: $2250/year. Armed with backpack and water, I can walk out my front door and lose all visible signs of civilization within 30 minutes -- on foot. In Salt Lake, the same money would buy about twice as much home.

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