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post #71 of 73 (permalink) Old 09-28-2006, 08:01 PM
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I beg your (everybody's) pardon for my late arrival and if I am repeating previous discussion it is because I am too lazy to read the thread. Just tell me, "Been there, done that" and I'll move along.

I do not agree with you (above) Bear. The only things that each of us is entitled to are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. What we do with that entitlement is our own (individual) concern and responsibility. We (as a society) do a disservice to our brothers and sisters when we burden them with obligations to other people. In it's most arbitrary, it is involuntary servitude. I'll grant that there is a gradation between absolute freedom and involuntary servitude. I will also grant that the boundary shifts with time and circumstance.

In other words, there is no natural line between the obligations to community and its' imposition on liberty. The duty of each citizen in a free society is to push on that line. Thus to me, it is a line crossed to tell my I MUST be my brother's keeper. I don't mind being asked to volunteer (which I do), but I deeply resent being forced to by some outside agency.

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Actually I think we agree. I said that "I DO believe that everyone is ENTITLED to the opportunity to give it their best shot" and that falls pretty close to that PURSUIT of Happiness.

The AND was only if the programs are available for everyone and not part of the entitlement. Maybe I need to correct my own damned grammar.

As for your last comment "but I deeply resent being forced to by some outside agency." You really must hate April 15.

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You really must hate April 15.
Don't we all?

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Actually I think we agree. I said that "I DO believe that everyone is ENTITLED to the opportunity to give it their best shot" and that falls pretty close to that PURSUIT of Happiness.

The AND was only if the programs are available for everyone and not part of the entitlement. Maybe I need to correct my own damned grammar.

As for your last comment "but I deeply resent being forced to by some outside agency." You really must hate April 15.
Oh.

Uh.

never-mind, go about you business as though I hadn't totally missed the point.

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