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Donald Trump went broke and lost it all. Was he ever 'poor'? No. He maintained his lifestyle while he built it all back.
hey, i'd like to be just as broke as trump, ok? dude..



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So perhaps there are people in the world who have never seen a better life - not even on TV - but I seem to think (like McBear) that we're a full generation away from a fix. We have got to eliminate social programs that say implicitly that the rest of us don't think you (poor people) will ever make anything of yourselfes, so we're going to give you some stuff for free that the rest of us get by working for it. As I've said before, we have to brainwash children in poor areas into believing that they can do anything they want, and can achieve anything they set their minds to, and ensuring that self-destructive behaviors are called out as barriers to living a better life (unwed/teen pregnancy, drug abuse, gang membership, etc).
Oh, we're more than a generation away. TV provides a glimpse of a fantasy world. Why take a middle-class sitcom any more seriously that Spongebob? You did because it didn't seem that alien to you. For the most part, it takes real life experience, and from a perspective of real attainability. IOW, I don't think it does much good to provide a servant's perspective of the upper class. But even real experience may or may not be enough to break the barrier of home life and parental influence. It's definitely a tough road to hoe, but if some sort of school exposure programs were put in place, I'd be thrilled if 20% of these kids showed marked success above and beyond that of their parents.

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Apparently you are out of touch if you think powdered milk cost less than 'real' milk. Powdered milk is more expensive. Check it out yourself.

have you checked? let's say 1gal of real milk is $2.. now box of powdered milk is $4.50.. sure seems the latter is more expensive.. how many gallons does one box make? more then 2 or 3 i assure you.



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If the poor are to helped, Quit rewarding them with welfare. Welfare reform is a must. but the poverty pimps on the left will always give enough to keep them in their social status as to keep getting their votes.

There will always be poor, That's what keeps capitalism running.

next issue; Why people fail?
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I guess you liberals on this forum think that no one could possibly be happy in life
unless they reach a middle class lifestyle. Don't be so judgemental.

There is room in America for different educational backgrounds and differently motivated individuals.

Seems like every lib thinks that they have to "save" everyone that isn't on a middle class level and ASSUMES that they couldn't "possibly" be happy. THEY ARE WRONG!!!!

I know plenty of people that don't measure the "quality of life" by the dollar sign.

Not everyone wants the high pressure that comes with a bigger paycheck.

Work balanced by expectations and motivation equals a happy life. Not money

Not everyone wants to study, work, strive, and dedicate themselves like others do. You cannot "save" someone from the level of life they want.

Burger flippers and CEO's there's room and jobs for everyone.

Don't judge everyone by YOUR standards!
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yes, wanting more for america is not american..



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everything is just three degrees removed from Kevin Bacon.....

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Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he'll eat for the rest of his life. The problem with the 'witless' left is that they think that being poor is an unfortunate series of events, when in reality, it is a way of life for most who are poor.
If you put a poor man on welfare rolls, he'll be there as long as you're giving. Take him off and see how fast he'll get his act together. As I said before, there are a few exceptions, but this is for the most part, the case for the majority.

Donald Trump went broke and lost it all. Was he ever 'poor'? No. He maintained his lifestyle while he built it all back.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat all day drinking beer and smoking joints.Or is that just me?
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Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will sit in a boat all day drinking beer and smoking joints.Or is that just me?

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have you checked? let's say 1gal of real milk is $2.. now box of powdered milk is $4.50.. sure seems the latter is more expensive.. how many gallons does one box make? more then 2 or 3 i assure you.
My wife was making a hot chocolate recipe that called for a small box of powdered milk. I paid 3.89 for a box that made 6 quarts. Now my math tells me that's 65¢ a quart or $2.60 a gallon. Real milk at the supermarket here is $2.39 gallon for store brand. Looks like the powdered milk cost more to me. Maybe you forget there used to be government programs that GAVE powdered milk and cheese away to the poor. That could be why many have the impression that powdered milk is cheaper. The only advantage to powdered milk (besides tasting like shit and your kids drink less of it) is that it stores longer.

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