Originally Posted by Bruce R.
So all the guys that died before then were what? As a point of interest, combat pay was issued well before 1965, and we had bases all over the South with guys getting combat pay, so that blows your BS out of the water doesn't it.
Dwight D. Eisenhower was involved in the early 1950's, John Kennedy increased our involvement very significantly, read a book, and learn something if that's possible.
One more thing, WE, did NOT separate the North and the South, the United Nations did..... You really have to stop with the revisionist history crap, there's to many people around that lived through that era and are still alive to know better then you and your brain damage.
Pardon me for failing to see your invisible genius, but the partition of Vietnam was a result of the Geneva Accords of 1954. Revisionist history crap? My, my. Unlike you I present fact with source. For a guy who claims to be an expert on Vietnam, you don't seem to have a grasp on even the most basic facts:
"The agreement was between Cambodia, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, France, Laos, the People's Republic of China, the Republic of Vietnam, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom, and the United States. However, only France and Ho Chi Minh's DRV signed the document. The former wanted to re-establish her colonial influence while the latter was buying time to reinforce its position in the North."
The accords stipulated that the unification of Vietnam would occur after national elections were held in 1956.
The US saw to it that the elections were never held, because it was well known that Ho Chi Minh and his Communist Party would have won easy election. Instead, the first of many corrupt US puppet governments were set up to rape, murder and rob the people of South Vietnam over the course of the next brutally sad twenty years.
Your so-called "country" of "South Vietnam" was never more than an American pipe dream.
"Diem announced, with American approval, that he was not going to carry out national elections as called for by the Geneva Accords. He refused even to hold a conference with the Viet Minh to discuss nationwide elections. Instead he renamed the State of Vietnam as the Republic of Vietnam, and held separate elections in South Vietnam to choose the government of the Republic of Vietnam. These elections had no international supervision, and there was not even a pretence of honesty in the counting of the votes. (In Saigon, which had about 450,000 registered voters, the official vote tally said that there had been about 600,000 votes cast for Diem.) Diem declared that he had gotten more than 98% of the votes, and that he was now President of the Republic of Vietnam.
Thus there came to be two governments in Vietnam. In the North was the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, with its capital at Hanoi, a Communist regime headed by Ho Chi Minh. In the South was the Republic of Vietnam, with its capital at Saigon, headed by Ngo Dinh Diem.
It is not really accurate to think of these as a North Vietnamese government and a South Vietnamese government. Each of them was made up of a mixture of North and South Vietnamese; the Prime Minister of the Communist government in the North, for instance, was a native of South Vietnam. Each of these governments said that Vietnam was basically one nation, not two. (The United States liked to say that South Vietnam should be an independent nation, separate from the North, but Ngo Dinh Diem did not agree.) Each of the two Vietnamese governments considered itself the legitimate government of all of Vietnam.
-shows that it was indeed the United States that for all intents and purpose created the state of South Vietnam through their puppet Diem.
The people of Vietnam yearned for one thing: to be free of foreign domination. The only people who yearned for a "South Vietnam" were the American War Pigs and the kleptocrats raping the people. Like Iraq, the US saw to it that there was little or no UN involvement. Like I said, go buy a history book, and get back to me. Oh, and I was a really smart kid who was able to understand better what was going on in Vietnam at the age of 12 more than you do today.