Originally Posted by baby boo
Well then, this is where we disagree.
You seem to think that the struggle against Islamofascism is primarily designed to make the middle east safe for Israel whereas I think that this conflict is designed to make the world safe for America and her system of values.....
America can do what it needs to do keep the world safe enough for America without having troops on the ground in Iraq. We are bogged down in a situation where the terrorists are the masters and we are being taken to school. And you support this, along with any all infringement on our Constitutional Rights and our Constitutional Government, with apparent glee. Having Americans dying in the Middle East apparently relieves some of the Israeli angst about being out there defending their borders perpetually.
Until specific, achievable goals are enunciated, with specific yardsticks for measuring progress, I am opposed to any and all optional invasions of any country (like I said, if it is really them or us, life and death, well, go ahead an nuke them). And to get suckered into an invasion of choice by a President who apparently should have owned a used car dealership with Karl Rove as his chief of sales, under the pretext of WMD because it was a good story to sell the invasion on is a disgrace. To hear you support this tactic, merely because your goal, to have American troops die in the ME to soothe your Israeli national nerves is scary, and revolting.
From all you have written, the "final solution" for Islamofacists is to kill them all, even the ones who aren't quite in that category because they will be soon enough. Like preemtive invasions. Or, like Nazis eliminating the "Jewish Problem" by mass extermination. You have repeatedly made your opinion known that they cannot negotiate in good faith, and they honestly believe it is their duty to spread the Muslim faith by violence if a quick conversation doesn't work.
It is a centuries old tradition in the ME to engage in this bullshit. America does not need to be there and join in. Once you are there, it seems the "kill them all" solution crystalizes as the only viable long term strategy. So, stay the fuck out unless you are going in to "kill them all" and in that case we have nukes. We do not need to send our children over there to see the faces of he people they kill one at a time, and kill them one at a time. And we do not need to change America into an un-America while this bullshit drags on for centuries and what was once the wonder of America is forever lost. In a bullshit, optional invasion that never ended. Jim