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The bitter legacy of 9/11

The bitter legacy of 9/11

From The Independent, London. Published: 11 September 2006

2,973 Total number of people killed (excluding the 19 hijackers) in the September 11, 2001 attacks

72,000 Estimated number of civilians killed worldwide since September 11, 2001 as a result of the war on terror

2 Number of years since US intelligence had any credible lead to Osama bin Laden's whereabouts

2,932 Total number of US servicemen and women killed in Afghanistan and Iraq since September 2001

1,248 Number of published books relating to the September 11 attacks

$119m Ticket sales for anti-Bush documentary Fahrenheit 9/11

$40bn Airline industry losses since September 2001

2009 Date when the official memorial will open at the World Trade Centre site

0 Hours of intelligence training provided to new FBI agents before 9/11. Now they get 24.

91 per cent Terror cases from FBI and others that US Justice Dept declined to prosecute in first eight months of 2006

11 Weeks the 9/11 commission's final report was top of New York Times' non-fiction best-seller list

117 Number of UK service personnel killed in Iraq since invasion

40 Number of UK personnel killed in Afghanistan since invasion

7 per cent People in UK who think US-led war on terror is being won, according to YouGov

1 Those charged in US with a crime in connection with 9/11

455 Number of detainees at Guantanamo Bay

77 per cent Percentage of people in the UK who believe Tony Blair's Middle East policy has made Britain a terrorist target (YouGov)

4,000 Number of UK troops left in Iraq after British-controlled provinceshanded back to Baghdad

18 The number of times that undercover investigators with fake IDs have breezed through US border checkpoints in a test by the Government Accountability Office

$8bn The amount the US will spend this year on hunting Bin Laden and other terrorists

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And for those more concerned with matters closer to their hearts, or butts as the case may be:

Also from The Independent

Beyond the blood price, there is a dollar and sterling cost. In July it was reported that the US Congress had approved $437,000,000,000 (£254bn) for costs related to the "war on terror". This, a sum greater than those spent on the Korean and Vietnam wars, compares to the $375bn that Make Poverty History says is needed to clear the debts of the world's poorest nations. The British Government has spent £4,500,000,000 on Iraq and Afghanistan.


I for one resent every last penny that has been spent.Shameful.
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Should have taken out Bin Laden back in 1998 when they had the chance and delt to the Taliban at the same time. But I guess thats hindsight.

Whats to bet we're still fighting the "war on terror" in 20 years time.
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Thats a HUGE 'cost' list - has anyone published a 'benefits gained' list?.
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NZ Benz"Whats to bet we're still fighting the "war on terror" in 20 years time".


Maintaining national security is a world away from fighting 'a war on terror' and no doubt we will have to endure a legacy of fear for decades to come.
In more developed economies, Mr and Mrs Baby Boom's offspring will less concerned with political ideology and increasingly preoccupied with their quality of life.
Politicians however love and in fact nourish themselves on wars.My bet is that the next war will be fought in broad terms on unhealthy living, hand in glove with energy conservation and other green issues.
In less developed economies, I would not be surprised to see violent conflict over fresh water and other basic resources.

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I believe that fresh water access is rapidly becoming an urgent issue in 'developed' economies - Queensland and Perth (Australia) come quickly to mind.
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Thats a HUGE 'cost' list - has anyone published a 'benefits gained' list?.

Haliburton's/Big oil's balance sheets?
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NZ Benz"Whats to bet we're still fighting the "war on terror" in 20 years time".


Maintaining national security is a world away from fighting 'a war on terror' and no doubt we will have to endure a legacy of fear for decades to come.
In more developed economies, Mr and Mrs Baby Boom's offspring will less concerned with political ideology and increasingly preoccupied with their quality of life.
Politicians however love and in fact nourish themselves on wars.My bet is that the next war will be fought in broad terms on unhealthy living, hand in glove with energy conservation and other green issues.
In less developed economies, I would not be surprised to see violent conflict over fresh water and other basic resources.
What like the "War on drugs" what ever happened to that?
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I believe that fresh water access is rapidly becoming an urgent issue in 'developed' economies - Queensland and Perth (Australia) come quickly to mind.
That is very true particulary for Auz. Anyway I hear this week Cantabury invaded Otago to get some water for the plains
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Should have taken out Bin Laden back in 1998 when they had the chance and delt to the Taliban at the same time. But I guess thats hindsight.

Whats to bet we're still fighting the "war on terror" in 20 years time.
Wonder how much that would have cost us?
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