Originally Posted by mcbear
Last I noticed, London and Madrid were in Europe and not the US. Your "WE have not been attacked..." Pick a hole.
Alas, it looks like I'm going to have to walk you this one......again.
Let me set up the issue for you in the form of numbered propositions, OK?
1. The assertion has been oft repeated here on BW that Bush & Co are losing the war on terror (or, at least, not winning it).
2. I pointed out that we have not had a terror attack since 9/11 in the U.S. and that this should count as a victory against terorism.
3. You responded by noting that there was a long interval between the first WTC attack and the second (8 years) implying that a mere five year reprieve was no evidence that the war on terror had been successfully interdicted in the U.S. (Follow me along so far?--don't want to lose you here as this is an important point that you, yourself made
4. I came back and pointed out that it is apparantly not for lack of trying that Al-Queda has not been successful in attacking us on our shores in view of the fact that 1) we have apprehended terrorists in the planning stage (Richard Reid, Jose Padilla etc) and that
Al-Queda in the interval since 9/11 has
been able to successfully target other western (but not American) interests specifically in Madrid and London.
5. My contention is that Al-Queda would have loved to attack America instead of
Britian or Spain but that effective U.S. counter-terror actions have prevented that from happening thus contradicting your claim item #3 above. It's not as if Al-Queda has been inactive on the world stage since 9/11. So, absent a recent attack on America proper, it is fair to conclude that our war on terror is at least effective in that regards.
.....you are free to disagree with my assumptions or conclusions but you are no longer free to pretend to not understand the substance of my arguments as they should now be as clear as day even for you. I realize that my first presentation may have been somewhat nuanced for your comprehension but, hopefully, putting them in the explicit form above will clarify the issues for you.
Also I'm sure you will find grammatical, spelling and punctuation errors in the above response but do see if you can concentrate in the future in first understanding
the issues involved and secondly focusing
on a meaningful response.