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Obviously you are mechanically inclined but I just have to ask..........wouldn't it be cheaper to just buy one in good shape?. Eh, I'm sure you probably have tons of parts available for it. Good luck!
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Even if they get Hillary on the ticket?

Personally, it depends who they get to run. I am an American, a young woman raised by a mother who 'had it all-career and family'. I suppose now, I work in a field of mostly older gentleman. (commercial real estate development). I sure know what the hell I am talking about when somebody asks a question. I have single handedly closed multi million dollar deals. But, when our Pakistani investors come for a meeting, I serve them tea, and leave the room. They are not comfortable talking business in front of me. I am not offended by this. They do not disrespect me in any way.

In the same token, I am not saying a woman can't do the job of president. I'm not saying America couldn't/wouldn't respect a woman-president. My problem is that given today's political climate WORLD WIDE, women are not considered equal in too many other countries. Specifically, countries where we potentially could have problems. MAJOR problems. In come countries, woman are still not allowed to vote. Hold title to property. Hold certain jobs. Are we supposed to assume those same countries will have as much respect for America if it were run by what others consider 'inferior persons?'
Having read your comments, in addition to your obvious contradictions, I can only conclude that you lack both a degree of personal confidence and a basic understanding of global politics and history.
What makes you think the Pakistani men respect you? You are deluding yourself.
Unless you subscribe to some medieval dogma or philosophy then the qualification required to lead a democratic nation (or any other position of responsibility) should be based soley on ability and mandate and regardless of gender.Any individual or state that cannot accept this is in desperate need of enlightenment and under no circumstances should be appeased.
There are numerous examples throughout history of exceptional female leaders from Boudeca to Thatcher in countries as diverse as Egypt and Russia against whom third parties have underestimated to their peril.Respect is always unconditionally earned.
I have three daughters and I would be dismayed should they feel certain opportunities are unavailable to them due to prejudice as we continue into the 21st century.As a matter of fact, with one currently reading politics and law and another reading American studies it's not inconceivable that either could be Premier of UK or President of the USA in a couple of decades.
Meanwhile, I take my tea with a dash of semi-skim and no sugar please luvvy.;-)
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Did Pakistan have a femal president once?
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Not President, but the striking Benazir Bhutto was elected Prime Minister of Pakistan in 1988 and again in 1993.
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Yes that's it. Maybe we should have Storm. tell us about how they really treat women. I have a feeling that savinggrace was being lied to by her coworkers so they can get the contracts so they scared her before she even met these people.
You did spot the contradiction and how in the hell did she serve them tea if this is going to be demeaning? I would have tossed it in their face if that was true.

I have worked with Pakistanis and Afghans when I was at the World Bank and they were very nice. They respected the females among us and were perfectly adjusted.
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....I have worked with Pakistanis and Afghans when I was at the World Bank and they were very nice. They respected the females among us and were perfectly adjusted.
Exceptions certainly exist from time to time but the world's muslim women are treated, for the most part, like breeding cows.....
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In the same token, I am not saying a woman can't do the job of president. I'm not saying America couldn't/wouldn't respect a woman-president. My problem is that given today's political climate WORLD WIDE, women are not considered equal in too many other countries. Specifically, countries where we potentially could have problems. MAJOR problems. In come countries, woman are still not allowed to vote. Hold title to property. Hold certain jobs. Are we supposed to assume those same countries will have as much respect for America if it were run by what others consider 'inferior persons?'
Listen if Hillary did become President, they wouldn't have a damn choice. They would disregard any feelings about women they have. You are right about many races, women are in many cultures the breeders and beneath men. Perhaps a female President and of the United States no less would change things. Then again we could be percieved as an absolute weak country in the eyes of many nations. Still, cant get worse than Bush.
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