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I'm hearing Aretha singin' in my head.

Plame, Plame, Plame,

Plame da foo'.
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I wonder what kind of sweet deal he got to take on the heat. My calculator is broke
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Your calculator is CRAP!

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An editorial in the Washington Post:

......Nevertheless, it now appears that the person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame's CIA career is Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming -- falsely, as it turned out -- that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger and that his report had circulated to senior administration officials. He ought to have expected that both those officials and journalists such as Mr. Novak would ask why a retired ambassador would have been sent on such a mission and that the answer would point to his wife. He diverted responsibility from himself and his false charges by claiming that President Bush's closest aides had engaged in an illegal conspiracy. It's unfortunate that so many people took him seriously.....

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...083101460.html (requires registration).
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Perhaps the Republicans should hold a Congressional investigation on this. I wonder why they haven't?
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The NY Times chimes in by taking Fitzgerald to task for continuing the investigation even after he knew who the leaker was.


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New Questions About Inquiry in C.I.A. Leak
By DAVID JOHNSTON
WASHINGTON, Sept. 1 — An enduring mystery of the C.I.A. leak case has been solved in recent days, but with a new twist: Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the prosecutor, knew the identity of the leaker from his very first day in the special counsel’s chair, but kept the inquiry open for nearly two more years before indicting I. Lewis Libby Jr., Vice President Dick Cheney’s former chief of staff, on obstruction charges.

Now, the question of whether Mr. Fitzgerald properly exercised his prosecutorial discretion in continuing to pursue possible wrongdoing in the case has become the subject of rich debate on editorial pages and in legal and political circles.

Richard L. Armitage, the former deputy secretary of state, first told the authorities in October 2003 that he had been the primary source for the July 14, 2003, column by Robert D. Novak that identified Valerie Wilson as a C.I.A. operative and set off the leak investigation.

Mr. Fitzgerald’s decision to prolong the inquiry once he took over as special prosecutor in December 2003 had significant political and legal consequences. The inquiry seriously embarrassed and distracted the Bush White House for nearly two years and resulted in five felony charges against Mr. Libby, even as Mr. Fitzgerald decided not to charge Mr. Armitage or anyone else with crimes related to the leak itself.

Moreover, Mr. Fitzgerald’s effort to find out who besides Mr. Armitage had spoken to reporters provoked a fierce battle over whether reporters could withhold the identities of their sources from prosecutors and resulted in one reporter, Judith Miller, then of The New York Times, spending 85 days in jail before agreeing to testify to a grand jury.

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When you consider the upheavel that this has caused in people's lives including the imprisonment of J. Miller, the indictment of Libby (on trumped up charges), the legal wrangling of the past 3 years and the distraction of the public discourse away from more substantive issues, it puts Fitzgerald's inquiry in a very unflattering light to say the least.

Since Fitzgerald knew 3 years ago that Armitage had leaked this information to Novak why were no indictments forthcoming? My guess is that the criteria for criminal liability had to include all of the following items 1) the operative was working undercover within the past 5 years 2) the "leaker" knew this for a fact and 3) he disclosed this information to a 3rd source with full knowledge of 1 & 2).

Fitzgerald undoubtedly knew that at least one of these factors were missing 3 years ago and, thus, that no laws were broken and yet he, apparently, continued to persue the matter as if this were a personal vendetta against the White House. This is just inexplicable.
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Fitzgerald is a registered Republican. Odd, isn't it?
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