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HAHAHAHAH..........The ignorants finally show up!! I am surprised there are still people think Bush is the best since the slice of bread.

Keep drinking the Kool-aid, fools.

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Now then, seriously, if you want to blame Bush for giving Osama a pass, you really are quite narrow minded or selective about the news you read.

http://www.infowars.com/saved%20page..._bin_laden.htm
Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
Sudan offered up the terrorist and data on his network. The then-president and his advisors didn't respond.

BY MANSOOR IJAZ

President Clinton and his national security team ignored several opportunities to capture Osama bin Laden and his terrorist associates, including one as late as last year.

I know because I negotiated more than one of the opportunities.

From 1996 to 1998, I opened unofficial channels between Sudan and the Clinton administration. I met with officials in both countries, including Clinton, U.S. National Security Advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger and Sudan's president and intelligence chief. President Omar Hassan Ahmed Bashir, who wanted terrorism sanctions against Sudan lifted, offered the arrest and extradition of Bin Laden and detailed intelligence data about the global networks constructed by Egypt's Islamic Jihad, Iran's Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas.

Among those in the networks were the two hijackers who piloted commercial airliners into the World Trade Center.

The silence of the Clinton administration in responding to these offers was deafening.

...

Clinton's failure to grasp the opportunity to unravel increasingly organized extremists, coupled with Berger's assessments of their potential to directly threaten the U.S., represents one of the most serious foreign policy failures in American history.

Mansoor Ijaz, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, is chairman of a New York-based investment company.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed...0004-4280r.htm
Bill and Dick, Osama and Sandy

By Michael F. Scheuer

With one credible September 11 movie, "United 93," under our belts, it will be interesting to see whether ABC-TV will complete the September 11 Commission's whitewashing of the pre-September 11 failure of U.S. intelligence-community leaders in its forthcoming mini-series based on Richard Clarke's memoir, "Against All Enemies."

Media teasers about the mini-series have said that Mr. Clarke -- the former "terrorism czar" -- and a senior FBI officer, the late John O'Neill, will be the heroes of the saga. If true, and if ABC's fact-checkers are not diligent in verifying Mr. Clarke's stories and claims, the mini-series will be the September 11 commission's dream come true: The Bush administration will be blamed for September 11, the feckless moral cowardice of the Clinton administration will be disguised and Mr. Clarke and Mr. O'Neill -- in my view, two principal authors of September 11 -- will be beatified.

...

Mr. Clarke, of course, was at the center of Mr. Clinton's advisers, who resolutely refused to order the CIA to kill bin Laden. In spring 1998, I briefed Mr. Clarke and senior CIA, Department of Defense and FBI officers on a plan to kidnap bin Laden. Mr. Clarke's reaction was that "it was just a thinly disguised attempt to assassinate bin Laden." I replied that if he wanted bin Laden dead, we could do the job quickly. Mr. Clarke's response was that the president did not want bin Laden assassinated, and that we had no authority to do so.

Michael F. Scheuer, a 22-year veteran with the CIA, created and served as the chief of the agency's Osama bin Laden unit at the Counterterrorist Center
Read for yourself:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/685318/posts
http://www.drudgereport.com/matt91h.htm
http://www.nationalreview.com/interr...ory091103b.asp
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Conten...3/938ztlwc.asp
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/ne...412-us-obl.htm
http://www.fsmitha.com/h2/ch36ter5.htm

I think impeaching Clinton for the Lewinski deal was a travesty, in that we wasted a lot of time going after a small fish - we should have waited, and executed his degenerate ass for treason. If the blood of the 9/11 victims is on anyone's hands other than OBL, it's on the hands of William Jefferson Clinton.
I think you are purposely missing the point. Clinton did not respond to an attack on the United States that killed 3,000 American citizens, because that did not happen on his watch. It did happen on Bush's watch, and Bush has failed in 5 years of sending American troops and spending hundreds of millions of American taxpayer's dollars, to capture or kill Osamma. And, we are now being told Bush's civilian appointee to run the Department of Defense prevented specific action that possibly could have led to Osamma's and the Taliban leaders' capture or death by someone who is purported to know. While the claims by the source may be questionable until verified by some vetting process, the idea that Clinton is responsible for Bush's failure to carry out Bush's plan of action in response to the 9-11 attack, because Clinton didn't prevent 9-11, is patently absurd.

I suppose you think the President in office when Hitler's father was actually infecting his wife the night Hitler was conceived should be held responsible for WWII? There is a point where a the man in the White House running the show has to take the responsibility for his actions. Trying to dillute the strength of this potion with Clinton antics is nothing more than a form of escaping from the present nightmare to some more comfortable era when another, less connected to your soul, guy was in power and causing all the problems. Face it, Bush is either the most evil person to inhabit the White House, or really just plain missing the basic tools to be President. In either case, his effect is not harmless and he needs to be countered, just like Clinton was, with a Congress controlled by the other party. Jim
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So history and accountability are figments of our imagination, and every situation in the world is solely at the hands of the sitting President, eh?

It's a stupid argument. The shortcomings of the sitting president are noted, and instead of admitting the guy is a turkey, you instead point your finger and say, "yeah, but look what happened ten years ago". It's moronic bullshit.
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