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The U.S. military has a mandate of service to the U.S., and no one else. As long as they serve the U.S. faithfully, there is no hypocrisy, regardless of what some fork-tongued politician says...

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The U.S. military has a mandate of service to the U.S., and no one else.
I never said otherwise, I understand they follow a civilian President.

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As long as they serve the U.S. faithfully, there is no hypocrisy, regardless of what some fork-tongued politician says...
The point AGAIN is this Administration uses the Military with hypocrisy. I am not blaming the military for this, as you seem to be implying. However, the use of the military is dictated by a hypocritical President.

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The point AGAIN is this Administration uses the Military with hypocrisy. I am not blaming the military for this, as you seem to be implying. However, the use of the military is dictated by a hypocritical President.
Well of course it does, but that isn't what you said -- I'm not implying anything. I now understand that you didn't write what you meant.
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I don't think the military should practice hypocrisy.

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Well of course it does, but that isn't what you said -- I'm not implying anything. I now understand that you didn't write what you meant.
Sorry, if I confused you. However, I assumed we were all on the same page in that the military is controlled by the President, ie: what hyprocrisy is perceived to be taken by the military are a direct result of the President and his policies.

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Huh? You're the brilliant mind that complains about us lesser mortals and then swims with us in the sty. Hence, the Gump-ism.
Me? I thought that was you.

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Me? I thought that was you.

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Well, actually I was refering to the Alternate History of The Universe crowd. You at least are willing to admit it was all about oil.

Recall that earlier generations faced down fascism and communism not just with missiles and tanks, but with sturdy alliances and enduring convictions. They understood that our power alone cannot protect us, nor does it entitle us to do as we please. Instead, they knew that our power grows through its prudent use; our security emanates from the justness of our cause, the force of our example, the tempering qualities of humility and restraint.

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The point is that Iraq did NOT have WMD, did NOT support Al Qaeda. While I support the FIRST Gulf War, due to the invasion of Kuwait, I find no evidence to support ANY reason to invade Iraq a second time, not to mention after the first Gulf war, IRAQ was contained. Sure, they were playing games with the inspectors, but the IAEA said they were in full compliance prior to the invasion.
Actually, the UN inspection team just prior to our invasion was satisfied with Iraqi cooperation and compliance, unlike prior teams that were being jerked around at every turn. When preliminary reports indicated that a ruling of full compliance was imminent, GW ran them off and launched the invasion, while some small doubt still remained. IOW, he was only willing to tolerate the inspection team as long as there was a chance they would help justify the invasion.

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But Rwanda does not have OIL and did not threaten to kill W's daddy. So we can't help them.
Exactly. If we're going to pay for our military to meddle in other's affairs, might as well get something in return.

Veering off topic*....Anyone know how much oil Iraq has? And when we might be getting some of it? Or, are we already?


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Exactly. If we're going to pay for our military to meddle in other's affairs, might as well get something in return.

Veering off topic*....Anyone know how much oil Iraq has? And when we might be getting some of it? Or, are we already?


*What? Here? NEVER!
Didn't you fill out the forms and send them in with your last tax return? I had four barrels of genuine Iraqi crude dropped off on my driveway just last week.

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