Originally Posted by JimSmith
Not exactly Bot, but your response that led to my comment was a little over in left field too. The central issue with drawing attention to peculiar beliefs in religions relates to how such peculiar beliefs can become either politically correct and pushed on people, or how they become legislated into "common law" and imposed on people. If someone wants to believe in peculiar concepts of the universe, they should feel free to do that, as long as they leave the rest of us alone. Jim
Not sure how many of you watched 60 minutes last night, but there was a piece about an ex-Islamic woman - Ayaan Hirsi Ali
- who fled to Holland in 1992 (to escape an arranged marriage, so she said). You see, strictly speaking, women who stray from the Islamic faith are to be murdered...had she stayed in her community, this likely would have happened.
She wrote a short movie, and enlisted a very controversial director to make it a reality. It ran 12 minutes, and depicted naked, beaten women with Islamic verses written on them. The movie was called "Submission"
, and resulted in a brutal attack on and death of the director, Theo Van Gogh.
During her political career, she has attempted to make Holland - a bastian of liberalism the likes of which some here would have America become - realize that protecting women from being abducted to middle-eastern countries and killed, or beaten savagely for transgressions against Mohammed, is NOT in fact 'imposing peculiar religious views' on another people. Holland took notice, and has been talking about dramatically tightening it's immigration laws (making ours look liberal by comparison).
The point is this - whether or not a person's religious views are "peculiar" is a matter of perspective and opinion. What is NOT a matter of perspective or opinion is that all humans are entitled to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It is up to responsible governments to ensure that the violation of such rights en masse by ANY body - governmental or otherwise - is not let to go unnoticed. Certainly, some Islamic fascists for example would consider these to be "peculiar religious views"...I assure you they are not.
Hirsi Ali's background is somewhat questionable - ostensibly because she was in fear for her life and well-being for some reason. Nevertheless, much of what she says of Islam is very telling. During the 60 Minutes interview, she said she knew very young in life that Islam was 'not for her'. She was reading Nancy Drew / Hardy Boys books, and commented that "Nancy Drew wouldn't be wearing a veil." This, to me, speaks volumes about the boiling hatred Muslims have toward the west - our story is one of liberation and freedom, and freedom is a concept that runs at odds with what Islam has to say. Blame Islam, blame the Qu'ran, blame the Imam's who teach it - you cannot deny that the caustic animosity towards the west is a uniquely Muslim phenomenon.
In this day and age, the number of "crackpot christians" who have killed tens or hundreds, or even thousands of people in the name of their God are very, very few - most of them are written off as mental cases. I don't think the same diagnosis can be made for the believers of the literal word of Mohammed.