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News gets to Iowa kinda slow...Clinton has been out of office for a while now.
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News gets to Iowa kinda slow...Clinton has been out of office for a while now.
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I have a hunch that FeelTheLove is not finding this amusing at all.

Alas, one never does when the joke's on them.....
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It is actually interesting to see how weak the Clinton smokescreen is playing for you "conservatives" this time around. Normally any mention of Clinton is good for a barrage of HeeHaws and Guffaws that would go on and on, as you practically broke each other's backs slapping them so hard. This time it seems the idea that your spiritual leader may be facing some real challenges if he can't keep his cronies in Congress has subdued the response. It is still pretty ludicrous that you would try to use Clinton for a distraction, but it is clear there is a genuine concern that even you guys can't disguise with your old standby.

I am hoping for evidence America realizes now what a poor path this President and his "owned" Congress have taken, and boots them out of power. The House or the Senate would be fine, come this November, because once all three (including the executive branch) are not run by a single party, either for that matter, there is a real capability to implement the checks and balances that are intended by the architects of our government. With the House or the Senate, or both in the hands of the opposition there is a chance we can depose the self appointed king by forcing him to abide by laws of the land, or, if he insists, by impeaching.

Face it, Bush is a terrible President who has surrounded himself with poor administrators and advisors. He loses his job in a few years anyway. At this point, just preventing him from doing more damage and staying focused on getting America back should be the higher priority than delving into a distracting impeachment process. But he deserves to be impeached. Jim
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Don't know what the problem is, I have had SNAFU on my truck for 5 years. Never had a problem. Now I know what to replace it with.

Best part of the article however was the info: What happens when you type "miserable failure" into Google.


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Best part of the article however was the info: What happens when you type "miserable failure" into Google.
I keep getting "peanut farmer" and "Jimmy Carter."

What are you getting?

The anti-Bush "elite" here may find this article interesting:

Google's (and Inktomi's) Miserable Failure

By Danny Sullivan, Editor-In-Chief
January 6, 2004

By now, many have learned about how a search for miserable failure on Google brings up the official George W. Bush biography from the US White House web site. Dismissed by Google as not a problem, it points out a case where the real miserable failure is Google itself.

"Google Bombing" like this has happened in the past, and in general, it has little impact on most people. Making a site come up tops for a relatively obscure query such as "miserable failure," which brings back less than 200,000 matches, is much different than exercising some super-control over Google for popular or commonly-performed searches.

I've written about other examples of Google Bombing in the past (Google Bombs Aren't So Scary) and why I think it tends to be overplayed. But in this case, I find myself agreeing with The Register's Andrew Orlowski, who discussed how blogging activity might "googlewash" a term earlier this year. This is when the originating document or original meaning of a term is lost due to new material coming into the search results.

Unlike what Google claims in this latest incident, the results that currently come up for miserable failure do not "reflect the opinion on the web," nor is it true that "no user is hurt" or that there is no "clearly legitimate site for 'miserable failure' being pushed aside."

This Google Bombing was done by at most a few hundred links pointing at the biography, if that many. Google annoyingly makes it impossible to tell exactly how many links are involved using the term, but to say that this particular campaign is the same as the "opinion on the web" is absurd. So only a few hundred people are able to speak for millions of web users? This isn't the web's opinion -- it's a particular opinion on the web.

Users are also hurt, because there are indeed "legitimate" sites for this query that get knocked down in the results.

What's a legitimate site? Seems like the Dick Gephardt For President site deserves top ranking, since he appears to have christened Bush's administration a "miserable failure" as part of his campaign slogan. In short, Gephardt's site is an originating source for this term and actually provides much more useful information for those wondering how it relates to Bush than the biography prank.

Rather than be first, Gephardt is ranked eighth. Only two weeks ago, he was ranked third. At this rate, the game Google's happy for people to play (see new entries of Hillary Clinton, Jimmy Carter and Michael Moore) will have pushed Gephardt's site out of the top results and into oblivion altogether.

Another good listing is an article from the Atlantic Monthly that explores how Gephardt is using "miserable failure" as part of his campaign to attack Bush. Again, this is a far more useful site for users than ranking the Bush biography first. Only two weeks ago, this was ranked second. Now the gaming has pushed it to fifth.

Calling Google Bombing "cybergraffiti" as the New York Times does is appropriate. Google did have good listings for this query, for the few who were probably doing it before this prank emerged. Now, Google appears happy for this blogging campaign (and now new ones) to spray paint whatever it wants above more relevant listings.

Again, most of the time this isn't a big deal. Arguing who should be number one for "talentless hack," a past Google Bomb, is more of an amusement. But "miserable failure" is a campaign slogan in a major US presidential race. What comes up for it matters much more.

By the way, Inktomi also has Bush's biography coming up for miserable failure, underscoring that link manipulation isn't just a Google problem. It's a challenge that Google's most direct crawler-competitor also faces. But Teoma, which uses a unique form of link analysis, has escaped the bombing.

There's at least some good news for Bush. His former campaign store web site is no longer number one on Google for what I'll euphemistically call a search for "dumb Oedipus," as was the case back at the beginning of 2001.

NOTE: There have been many developments since this story was originally written. Search Engine Watch members have access to the Link Bombing page that categorizes some related stories. See also the Googlebombing Now A "Prank" And Not Web's Opinion, Says Google article from Sept. 2005.


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