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post #61 of 80 (permalink) Old 08-17-2006, 03:51 PM
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You don't think he knows a couple of cops?
Does it matter? All he did was state the opinion of 2 police officers , which I might add are not fact, but merely the opinion of two out of how many police officers in the US?

However since you nor he cant provide one shred of evidence to support the idea of racial profiling in everyday law enforcement I'll help you out here...

Studies have shown that even when people of color are searched at higher rates, they are no more likely than whites to be found with contraband.

Dr. John Lamberth, in a study of stops by Maryland State Troopers on I-95, found that the “hit rate” – the percentage of searches in which contraband was found – was the same for black and white drivers: 28%. New Jersey’s attorney general reported in 1999 that the hit rates for motorists stopped by New Jersey State Troopers were 10.5% for white drivers and 13.5% for black drivers. New York’s attorney general reported that in “stop in frisk” incidents in 1998 and 1999, the arrest rates were 12.6% for whites, 11.3% for Latinos, and 10.5% for blacks. In 1998 the U.S. customs service reported similar numbers for stops and searches in airports nationwide. Their hit rates were 6.7% for whites, 6.3% for blacks, and 2.8% for Latinos

http://www1.umn.edu/irp/publications....html#_ftnref5

As for being supported by the police agencies...

Eleven states have enacted legislation addressing racial profiling to date: California, Connecticut, Kansas, Massachusetts, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Tennessee, and Washington.

Also Arizona is the newest to add to that list...

Friday, July 28, 2006

PHOENIX , AZ – U.S. Magistrate Judge Lawrence O. Anderson today approved a settlement agreement between the American Civil Liberties Union and the Arizona Department of Public Safety to prevent racial profiling by patrol officers along Arizona's highways and streets.

The terms of the settlement also address the following:

• Amending agency policies to prohibit officers from pulling over motorists on the basis of race or skin color;

• Training officers to comply with anti-racial profiling policies;

• Working toward the goal of having vehicle-based video systems in all department vehicles throughout the state to tape all traffic stops, detentions and searches; and,

• Requiring patrol officers to use a bi-lingual written consent form whenever a search is requested during a traffic stop.

http://www.acluaz.org/News/PressReleases/07_28_06.htm

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When I was 17 or so, I was stopped frequently by police officers for the purpose of searching my person and vehicle for contraband. Many years have now passed and that never happens any more. Are you honestly suggesting that is a lapse in judgment on the part of police officers?
It means we are all in great danger!!!!!!

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Does it matter? All he did was state the opinion of 2 police officers , which I might add are not fact, but merely the opinion of two out of how many police officers in the US?

However since you nor he cant provide one shred of evidence to support the idea of racial profiling in everyday law enforcement I'll help you out here...

Studies have shown that even when people of color are searched at higher rates, they are no more likely than whites to be found with contraband.

Dr. John Lamberth, in a study of stops by Maryland State Troopers on I-95, found that the “hit rate” – the percentage of searches in which contraband was found – was the same for black and white drivers: 28%. New Jersey’s attorney general reported in 1999 that the hit rates for motorists stopped by New Jersey State Troopers were 10.5% for white drivers and 13.5% for black drivers. New York’s attorney general reported that in “stop in frisk” incidents in 1998 and 1999, the arrest rates were 12.6% for whites, 11.3% for Latinos, and 10.5% for blacks. In 1998 the U.S. customs service reported similar numbers for stops and searches in airports nationwide. Their hit rates were 6.7% for whites, 6.3% for blacks, and 2.8% for Latinos

http://www1.umn.edu/irp/publications....html#_ftnref5

As for being supported by the police agencies...

Eleven states have enacted legislation addressing racial profiling to date: California, Connecticut, Kansas, Massachusetts, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, Rhode Island, Tennessee, and Washington.

Also Arizona is the newest to add to that list...

Friday, July 28, 2006

PHOENIX , AZ – U.S. Magistrate Judge Lawrence O. Anderson today approved a settlement agreement between the American Civil Liberties Union and the Arizona Department of Public Safety to prevent racial profiling by patrol officers along Arizona's highways and streets.

The terms of the settlement also address the following:

• Amending agency policies to prohibit officers from pulling over motorists on the basis of race or skin color;

• Training officers to comply with anti-racial profiling policies;

• Working toward the goal of having vehicle-based video systems in all department vehicles throughout the state to tape all traffic stops, detentions and searches; and,

• Requiring patrol officers to use a bi-lingual written consent form whenever a search is requested during a traffic stop.

http://www.acluaz.org/News/PressReleases/07_28_06.htm
Would you please quit posting/plagiarizing all of that CRAP!!!

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Would you please quit posting/plagiarizing all of that CRAP!!!
Will you do everyone a favor and go jump off a cliff... For your information dumbass... its not plagiarizing when you cite your sources, so go put a sock in it.

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Will you do everyone a favor and go jump off a cliff... For your information dumbass... its not plagiarizing when you cite your sources, so go put a sock in it.
"...put a sock in it?" How rude:
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"...put a sock in it?" How rude:
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This is sad but very funny, watch the video
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That's almost as funny as it is scarry...

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They pulled me over repeatedly because I was young and I looked like a druggie. Now, I'm older and I don't look like a druggie. Simple as that. That kind of profiling happens every day in every city in America. Show me a police officer who ignores that valuable tool, and I'll show you a poor police officer.
When I lived in New York I still had Kentucky tags on my GMC Jimmy which I drove in the winter. I was pulled over 7 times in 8 months for "general stops", never ticketed. Finally I would hang my IBM Armonk badge on the rearview mirror and they would just ask for ID and let me go on. That was constant profiling.

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