Originally Posted by baby boo
Although we may agree these points there are some important differences here. At the beginning of the war they had George Bush who was running interference for them, they had Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia blaming Hezbollah for starting this agression, they had a hostile but not very vocal EU mildly condeming Israel. They were in an excellent position to severly punish Hezbollah and push them beyond the Litani river but lacked the politcal will to do so. In fact it is my understanding that the war plan the military had drawn up included both an intensive air and ground campaign at the same time but that Olmert nixed the idea of the ground portion. Probably because he could not stomach the idea of the several hundred Israeli casaulties that this would have entailed. But in the end Israel is going to pay an even higher price for this failure. A resumption of hostilties and more deaths are inevitable on both sides because Israel failed to do the job properly this time around.
Baby boo, I feel that I agree with you completely after the war has "ended". I've read all your posts on the various threads concerning the war aftermath, I have to say I share with you the same view more or less.
From the beginning, I was skeptic if a victory for Hezbollah would mean a victory to Lebanon. I believe my skepticism is justified now. Israel and Lebanon have surely lost this war. However Hezbollah is claiming victory. And what a strange caliber for victory they have. As a Lebanese citizen, I want to know how do we weigh or assess victory:
Is it by the number of Lebanese killed: We Lost.
Is it by the number of Lebanese who left Lebanon: We Lost.
Is it by the number of Lebanese who lost faith in their country: We Lost.
Is it by the number of Lebanese who lost their jobs, businesses, homes and way of life: We Lost.
Is it by the destruction infiltrated on Lebanon and its infrastructure: We Lost.
Is it by the number of Israeli soldiers killed: We Won.
But I don't care about the last point; I care about the previous points. That's why I know that Lebanon has lost.
Israel made many strategic mistakes in this war; we are back where we started. Olmert should have gone with the prisoners exchange and save all this. The way Israeli has carried out this operation by firing at non-Hezbollah targets has galvanized the support behind it. Hezbollah has lost many fighters, that's true, but is recruiting many more instead. Hezbollah is offering to rebuild the houses destroyed by Israel. I guess money from Iran. Hezbollah is promoting itself as a protector and looking after its people. Hezbollah is saying that it won't wait for the government and doesn't need it. Many members of Hezbollah are calling for the resignation of the current government, to include more pro-Syrian members. The Israeli foreign minister said yesterday that NO army can disarm Hezbollah. The Israeli army with all its might wasn't able to do so, so don't expect that the Lebanese government to be able to do it. If Hezbollah refuses to disarm, the Lebanese government can do nothing about it. And that's what I fear.
The Syrian president has started his own propaganda now. He said that Israel's war was intended to benefit the anti-Syrian parties in Lebanon, and he assured that the Pro-Syrians will win again.
So by all means, we the non- Hezbollah Lebanese have lost.