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Silver Arrow, I've had the pleasure of meeting, working with, go
ing to school with and befriending many people from Lebanon (mostly Armenian-Lebanese).

Without getting into the politics of it, what has happened to Lebanon (and what is continuing to happen to Lebanon) is a horrible shame.

The people that I know from Lebanon speak of a beautiful country, where a prosperous people lived in relative comfort and wealth. They speak of beautiful cities by the seashore and of rolling hillsides.

Many live in California, and especially So. California, because of he similar weather and topography.

I hope that someday soon your country returns to its former glory and stops being a pinata for people who care nothing about freedom or justice.

Buena suerte.
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It is a beautiful country, and that’s the reason that I stayed during all this time, in addition to my work. I hope the reconstruction process will start soon and we'll have a fast recovery.

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Isn't it great what money and good PR can buy? http://www.alhewar.com/Curtiss.html Perhaps the most hypocritical rationalization offered by friends of Israel is that U.S. special treatment is justified because Israel is "the Middle East’s only working democracy" and that Israel and the U.S. have many basic institutions in common. In fact, Israeli democracy does not work for non-Jews. In contrast to the United States, where by law all citizens have equal rights regardless of religion or ethnic origin, Muslim and Christian citizens of Israel do not have equal rights with regards to military service, the extensive social benefits available to veterans of Israeli military service, or even in terms of Israeli tax rates imposed on Arab citizens and Israeli government expenditures in Arab communities within Israel.

Further, Israeli citizenship is not available to the Muslim and Christian Palestinians driven from their homes in Israel in 1948, nor to their descendants. But a Jew, born anywhere in the world, can have Israeli citizenship for the asking.

Perhaps most shocking is the little-known fact that by now 90 percent of the land in Israel proper is held under restrictive covenants barring non-Jews, even those with Israeli citizenship, from owning the land or from earning a living on it. Unfortunately, the land held under such covenants is increasing, not decreasing. It would be difficult, therefore, to find two countries more profoundly different in their approaches to basic questions of citizenship and civil and human rights as are the United States and Israel.
This entire post just reeks of hypocricy.

In fact arabs in Israel have much more in the way of freedoms than arabs in most arab lands do. Not to mention the type of "freedoms" that jews "enjoy" in arab lands.
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Richard H. Curtiss, Washington Report Executive Editor, enlisted in the U.S. Army in World War II, and served as a military correspondent in Berlin, Germany after the war. After earning a B.A. in journalism from the University of Southern California and work on newspapers and for United Press in California, he served as a career foreign service officer with the Department of State and the U.S. Information Agency in Djakarta, Bonn, Stuttgart, Ankara, Beirut (three times), Baghdad, Damascus and Rhodes, Greece, where he headed the Arabic Service of the Voice of America, and in various positions in Washington DC.

During his U.S. government career he received the U.S. Information Agency's Superior Honor Award for his service as Embassy Counselor for Public Affairs in Lebanon during the civil war there, and the Edward R. Murrow award for excellence in Public Diplomacy, U.S.I.A.'s highest professional recognition.

Following his retirement from the U.S. Foreign Service in 1980, Mr. Curtiss was a co-founder of the American Arab Affairs Council (now the Middle East Policy Council) in 1981 and the Council for the National Interest in 1984, remaining on the initial board of directors of each of those organizations for one year. Since he co-founded the American Educational Trust in 1982, its magazine, the Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, has received an award from the National Association of Arab-Americans in 1993.

For his work as its executive editor, Mr. Curtiss received awards from the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC) in 1992, from the Council for the National Interest (CNI) and Partners for Peace in 1993, from the United Muslims of America and the Islamic Association for Palestine in North America in 1994 and from the Jerusalem Fund for Education and Community Development and the Center for Policy Analysis on Palestine in 1995.

Mr. Curtiss has written two books on U.S.-Middle East relations.

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I see, you have no evidence.

Just as I thought, another Jew-hater with no actual evidence to back up his hateful diatribes.

Answer the question, provide the evidence and then perhaps we can have a meaningful debate.

Until then you are just another ignorant, hate-promoting, jihadista-apologist.

As usual anyone that disagrees with you on this issue must be a Jew hater...
Where did I ever write a hate comment? By now go and ask boo that I have been disagreeing with for a lot longer time than you and he will tell you that it is not out of hatred. You need to grow up and thicken your skin a bit.
I have a question for you; prove to us that you are not an Arab hater? I can tell you right now that you are, just look at how you don't capitalize the word Arab yet other ethnicities you have no problems doing so. Just an observation, now prove to us what that you are as objective as you are trying to sell us.
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As usual anyone that disagrees with you on this issue must be a Jew hater...
Where did I ever write a hate comment? By now go and ask boo that I have been disagreeing with for a lot longer time than you and he will tell you that it is not out of hatred. You need to grow up and thicken your skin a bit.
I have a question for you; prove to us that you are not an Arab hater? I can tell you right now that you are, just look at how you don't capitalize the word Arab yet other ethnicities you have no problems doing so. Just an observation, now prove to us what that you are as objective as you are trying to sell us.
Listen jackass, I don't advice from someone like you, you pretentious little twit.

You have not provided a single shred of evidence directly linking contributions by the Israel lobby to actual votes. You have no evidence of a votes for money link.

Until you have provided credible, admissible evidence of such a link, all you have are wild speculations.

Your wild speculations serve only one purpose: to fan the flames of Jew hate.

That makes you a Jew hater--whether you wish to admit it to yourself or not.

I really couldn't give a rat's ass about your pedantic exchnges with another member of this board.

You either provide evidence of a direct link between cash and votes or just the f**k up, you Jew hater.

I suspect, however, that: 1. you will not provide the evidence requested and 2. that you will continue to blather on, spewing your Jew hatred.

BTW, I have nothing to prove, you are the one that made the charge that Jews and/or Israel control the U.S. government. You made the statement, now prove it or, as I wrote above, shut the f**k up.

If you truly believe that whether a person capitalizes the name of a group is evidence of his ethno-hate you are really dumber than you appear to be.

Where do you teach at, prof, at the "Lucky Strike" matchbook school?

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Listen jackass, I don't advice from someone like you, you pretentious little twit.

You have not provided a single shred of evidence directly linking contributions by the Israel lobby to actual votes. You have no evidence of a votes for money link.

Until you have provided credible, admissible evidence of such a link, all you have are wild speculations.

Your wild speculations serve only one purpose: to fan the flames of Jew hate.

That makes you a Jew hater--whether you wish to admit it to yourself or not.

I really couldn't give a rat's ass about your pedantic exchnges with another member of this board.

You either provide evidence of a direct link between cash and votes or just the f**k up, you Jew hater.

I suspect, however, that: 1. you will not provide the evidence requested and 2. that you will continue to blather on, spewing your Jew hatred.

BTW, I have nothing to prove, you are the one that made the charge that Jews and/or Israel control the U.S. government. You made the statement, now prove it or, as I wrote above, shut the f**k up.

If you truly believe that whether a person capitalizes the name of a group is evidence of his ethno-hate you are really dumber than you appear to be.

Where do you teach at, prof, at the "Lucky Strike" matchbook school?
Insults, that's all you can use to show how big you are? I gave you a couple of articles, everyone here quotes from articles do you have something better to offer.? Noooooooo then shut the hell up!
Every post I wrote was my opinion and I made that clear, you on the other hand you want to paint anyone that rocks your asslike mind a bit as either an idiot like you or some other shit. There is an ignore feature on BW if you want to use it but if you insist on DIRECT INSULTS we can take that up with the administrator. Does that make sense?

Here is another article about buying votes like you said: http://colorado.indymedia.org/newswi...2964/index.php

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Here is another article for you that shows the pressure the politicians are under from AIPAC just like you are trying to accuse me of anti-Semtism because my opinion runs contrary to yours.
quote: "This is the usual problem with any resolution that talks about Israel - there are a lot of closet naysayers up there (in Congress), but they don't want to be a target of the lobby" of Israel, said Eugene H. Bird, president of the Council for the National Interest, a group that harshly condemns Israel's military campaign.
From: http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/...ap2893644.html

Wow that looks like your attempt at intimidation that everyone can see here, what do you have to say to this? another insult? bring it on asswipe
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Now 67_250SE please clarify where is your logic that I am a Jew Hater because I don't like a foreign lobby influencing my country's legistlation? If critisizing AIPAC is a form of anti-Semitism then prove it or again as I said shut your yap. AIPAC does not speak for all Jews or does it? Come on let's see you pull some insults to compensate for your small penis. I am waiting
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Insults, that's all you can use to show how big you are? I gave you a couple of articles, everyone here quotes from articles do you have something better to offer.? Noooooooo then shut the hell up!
Every post I wrote was my opinion and I made that clear, you on the other hand you want to paint anyone that rocks your asslike mind a bit as either an idiot like you or some other shit. There is an ignore feature on BW if you want to use it but if you insist on DIRECT INSULTS we can take that up with the administrator. Does that make sense?

Here is another article about buying votes like you said: http://colorado.indymedia.org/newswi...2964/index.php
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