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Last time, in the yrs 83 & 91 in was a dry heat.
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Well civilians in northern Israel are also living the "events each day" and they might have a different perspective on it.
A different perspective, sure. But this is not what I'm talking about. We were discussing what happened on July 12th concerning the timetable of events.

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"As for Hezbollah holding these people in the building, I was thinking, maybe it was also a Hezbollah member you crossed into Israel, stole an Israeli fighter jet, flew with it and bombed the building while other members held the people hostage. You have quite a science-fiction imagination.
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Yeah, I can see how closely those two are related. Do you really think it is that far a stretch to believe that it is possible Hezbollah held those people there? Do you think Hezbollah has genuine concern for the Lebanese people? Can I please have some of the stuff you are smoking!! I personally believe the surveillance video that shows rockets being fired from that location and that Israel did not know civilians were hiding or held in that building. You keep saying that if you are there you know what exactly is going on. However, I would think that your opinion would be skewed if you were living in the fighting. How can you have an open opinion if bombs are dropping and civilians are dieing?
My personal feelings are the Hezbollah should be disarmed completely. Weather that happens by Lebanese turning them in (not likely), Israel disarming them, or a multi national (joke, its is almost always a US force. We never get credit just a bad name.), or some other means.

Also, These are my comments about my opinions. I do not mean any malice to others and their opinions. I don't live in a war zone, so please keep that in perspective.

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I personally believe the surveillance video that shows rockets being fired from that location and that Israel did not know civilians were hiding or held in that building.
Can you please produce that video? Israel has been furiously looking for it...

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Can you please produce that video? Israel has been furiously looking for it...
Yep Rob, I am waiting too, because I can't wait to switch camps and join the "know it all". It's getting old for me writing my opinions and observations about this fking injustice. I need to drink the same Kool Aid you and your friends are drinking in here
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Yeah, I can see how closely those two are related. Do you really think it is that far a stretch to believe that it is possible Hezbollah held those people there? Do you think Hezbollah has genuine concern for the Lebanese people? Can I please have some of the stuff you are smoking!! I personally believe the surveillance video that shows rockets being fired from that location and that Israel did not know civilians were hiding or held in that building. You keep saying that if you are there you know what exactly is going on. However, I would think that your opinion would be skewed if you were living in the fighting. How can you have an open opinion if bombs are dropping and civilians are dieing?
My personal feelings are the Hezbollah should be disarmed completely. Weather that happens by Lebanese turning them in (not likely), Israel disarming them, or a multi national (joke, its is almost always a US force. We never get credit just a bad name.), or some other means.

Also, These are my comments about my opinions. I do not mean any malice to others and their opinions. I don't live in a war zone, so please keep that in perspective.
I totally respect your view and opinion on the matter.
There is no evidence that Hezbollah held those people in that building. There were few survivors from that incident who gave their story to the news. They denied Hezbollah was near or seen at the area. All they heard is heavy air-craft activity in the sky and out of nowhere an Israeli bomb their building which caused it to collapse. They were stuck under the rubble for hours in the middle of dawn in the dark hearing their family members scream to death until they suffocated. The children had no chance. When they were rescued out, most of the inhabitants had died. They were 2 families: the Shalhoubs and Hashem.
Concerning the video that the Israeli army had released, we discussed this in another post. The army said that this is NOT the exact building that was hit, but a SIMILAR one. So: no evidence.
I agree with you that Hezbollah should disarm, and the Lebanese army be in charge of security in the south.
As for me having an open opinion, I think I do have that. Bombs are nowhere near me. So don't you worry about that. Plus I never smoked. Never did and never will.

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Rob, I read the last part of your post. I am sorry that I was harsh. I respect your opinion and I hope you forgive me
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I saw a brief but compelling interview on CNN with a well-spoken middle-aged man who had survived the incident. He said something to the effect (paraphrasing) 'We see what Israel is trying to do. They are trying to promote hatred and create terrorists here. Well, I have a response for them'. He then walks over to a bush, grabs a branch thick with flowers, and tosses it on the ground as he says 'Here is my response. You will not succeed. We will not turn to hate. We will not kill your women and your children.'

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I saw a brief but compelling interview on CNN with a well-spoken middle-aged man who had survived the incident. He said something to the effect (paraphrasing) 'We see what Israel is trying to do. They are trying to promote hatred and create terrorists here. Well, I have a response for them'. He then walks over to a bush, grabs a branch thick with flowers, and tosses it on the ground as he says 'Here is my response. You will not succeed. We will not turn to hate. We will not kill your women and your children.'
I saw that too. It was touching. Did you see it on CNN international or CNN USA?

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