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Well then based on this statement then since Turkey is an ally, can they attack Iraq because the Kurds killed fourteen Turkish soldiers in Turkey by infiltrating the Iraqi border last weekend? and why the hell not?
Because Iraq is OURS for the time being. We are trying to get things under control there. Yes, it's a mess. Should we then be held responsible for the attack on Turkey? Just Bush. HA! That's an easy out, I know. Tough to answer. I think we do have a responsibilty to at least try to settle it.
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You are the racist here defending Hesbolahs rights to kill Jews.

You don't see the Jews sending suicide bombers into Arab schools...or lobbing rockets haphazzard into cities with no military targets...


And in IRAQ....if they were staging attacks and launching a large number of missles into turkey...and sending suicide bombers into turkey...then I would say the ame. But thats not what is happening exactly.
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You are the racist here defending Hesbolahs rights to kill Jews.

You don't see the Jews sending suicide bombers into Arab schools...or lobbing rockets haphazzard into cities with no military targets...


And in IRAQ....if they were staging attacks and launching a large number of missles into turkey...and sending suicide bombers into turkey...then I would say the ame. But thats not what is happening exactly.
Show me were I defended Hizbolah's right to kill the Jews. I did however express that anyone has the right to protect their land from invasion, so if the Lebanese decide to defend their land would that be a taboo?

Launching missles or killing by other means is still killing. So why is it that when Turkey expressed their desire to invade the northern part of Irak the US had a say in it?
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Because Iraq is OURS for the time being. We are trying to get things under control there. Yes, it's a mess. Should we then be held responsible for the attack on Turkey? Just Bush. HA! That's an easy out, I know. Tough to answer. I think we do have a responsibilty to at least try to settle it.
That's more sensible. SD you should learn from Gregs on how to answer instead of swinging on a tree branch like a monkey crying foul.
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Sorry Bone -- war is less about 'right' and 'wrong' than it is about 'can' and 'can't'. And I think you'll find that the 'cans' of the world are the ones who have written our history books...
But war is all about not picking a fight you can't win. Like picking a fight with the biggest bully in high school. Well not really. You would get your but kicked but live to see tomorrow.

More like picking a fight with the Bandidos.....something thats a real dumb idea. Becasue you wouldn't stand a chance.


But it is about right and wrong. Hitler learned that....so did Tojo.


And Saddam has yet to have it sink into his thick skull.

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Show me were I defended Hizbolah's right to kill the Jews. I did however express that anyone has the right to protect their land from invasion, so if the Lebanese decide to defend their land would that be a taboo?

Launching missles or killing by other means is still killing. So why is it that when Turkey expressed their desire to invade the northern part of Irak the US had a say in it?
THere is no middle ground....you were taking Hesbolahs stance they can do anything to Isreal and not have to suffer the consequences for that action.

And Hesbolah really blew it when they started lobbing rockets.....as if Crossing the border into Isreal illegally and Kidnapping two of its citizens was not enough.

Hesbolah can't claim the "defending their land" crap when they were the agressors. Its Lebonese land....not Hesbolahs, even if Lebonan turned a blind eye to their terrorist activities.

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But war is all about not picking a fight you can't win. Like picking a fight with the biggest bully in high school. Well not really. You would get your but kicked but live to see tomorrow.

More like picking a fight with the Bandidos.....something thats a real dumb idea. Becasue you wouldn't stand a chance.


But it is about right and wrong. Hitler learned that....so did Tojo.


And Saddam has yet to have it sink into his thick skull.
Can someone help me understand what SD is trying to say? With that attitude I think we would have lost the revolutionary war from the get go.
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Can someone help me understand what SD is trying to say? With that attitude I think we would have lost the revolutionary war from the get go.
THe left would have surrendered at the first shot.....and would have surrendered to both Hitler and Tojo....

God know the left caused us to lose vietnam with this stupid "measured response" bullshit which is no way to fight a war.

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THere is no middle ground....you were taking Hesbolahs stance they can do anything to Isreal and not have to suffer the consequences for that action.

And Hesbolah really blew it when they started lobbing rockets.....as if Crossing the border into Isreal illegally and Kidnapping two of its citizens was not enough.

You can't claim the "defending their land" crap when they were the agressors.
Again you did not pinpoint where I sided Hizbolah. You are just talking trash because that's all you can do!
The Lebanese (not just Hizbolah) have the right to defend their county as much as we or any nation should. Maybe you think they should just give up Lebanon and stop defending their homes?
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Again you did not pinpoint where I sided Hizbolah. You are just talking trash because that's all you can do!
The Lebanese (not just Hizbolah) have the right to defend their county as much as we or any nation should. Maybe you think they should just give up Lebanon and stop defending their homes?
Really go back and read any of your posts....they were all anti Isreal. You were attacking Isreal for retaliating for Hesbolah strikes against Isrealie citizens.

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