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Old 07-14-2006, 03:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I think that pretty much covers it in one -- except that Cuba has never seen the Firearms Friendly Southern US. It would not be pretty.
Would that make us terrorists, or are we the only nation on earth that can defend itself and not be labeled as such?
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Old 07-14-2006, 03:58 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Old 07-14-2006, 04:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Would that make us terrorists, or are we the only nation on earth that can defend itself and not be labeled as such?
Of course not.... we love Jesus. people that love Jesus can't be terrorists.

Sort of like having undisputed freedom of speech by wrapping yourself in a flag before you speak; we are redeemed from any bad labels by wrapping ourselves in the love of Jesus.

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Old 07-14-2006, 04:12 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Here is my take. The US wanted to open a front with Iran but given that everyone in the world is looking at us like the kid that cried wolf, why not open it by proxy? Have our ally Israel invade Lebanon, draw Syria into it which will obviously bring Iran into the game as well.
I am starting to think that Harriri's murder was orchestrated to get the Syrians out of Lebanon for an eventual invasion as it is unfolding right now. The fact that Israel is attacking without any concerns about worldwide reaction just certifies that they had a green light from us to move for the kill. This is also the case with the Gaza strip where Israel had removed the settlers for an eventual collective punishment of the Palestinians at any opportunity without major risks. The strip will remain the battering or punching bag for Israel whenever it feels threatened by Palestinians from that side or even the West Bank. If this theory holds then I must admit that this was an excellently crafted strategy for Israel to either penetrate other Middle Eastern territories under the guise of punishing anyone that challenges it either through force or even intent.
Syria so far has proven that it is full of hot air so I will dismiss any real threats from them since they no longer have hold of strategic positions in southern Lebanon. They have been outmaneuvered and all it took was the killing of Al Harriri. I am now certain that it was not Syria that was involved in his murder. The unfortunate situation here is that Lebanon was showing great strides towards democracy after that event and after many years of civil war this was a chapter from which they felt that they finally had a break. Alas, the ouster of Syria albeit a good thing it actually was the results of a planned scheme that now will be the demise of Lebanon. What surprises me is that not many countries are stepping up to stop this madness and secure the Lebanese a real future where democracy could flourish and hopefully that in itself could have been the demise of Hamas or other terrorists that jockey into the political and social fabrics of Lebanon. Unfortunate Lebanon will be just a card that would be sacrificed by the “big players” so the US can flex its muscles on Iran and show them who’s the daddy.
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Old 07-14-2006, 04:17 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I got it, the USA wants to start more wars and so they got the Israelis to fake the capture of several of their soldiers and also to fake the launching of rockets into israel.. Heck, the Israelis are probably faking suicide bombers, too. Bin Laden was a jew. It's all clear to me now. Leiberman and Cheney are sure crafty.

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Old 07-14-2006, 04:18 PM   #26 (permalink)
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So, what's the answer? Move the Arabs out once and for all since they just can't get along?
this kind of bullshit talk is what is basically the problem with US-ME meddling.. why not move the damn jews instead..

fucking israel is not freaking better then the arabs.. US is no better then them either but i guess you can preach from your mountain all you want.. it still doesn't make it so..

and bullshit to the tit for tat crap too. israel must obey by the UN sanctions from the last 4 decades and i am sure things will get better.. the main one being that jews remove their shit from palenstinian lands as prescribed by UN.. not just almost all the way there but all the way there.. some laugh at arafat's non compromise but i think he actually did the right thing not selling out his people because some jack asses from the holy and mighty USA were pressuring him to do so.. fuck that.. and you may think my attitude sucks above but just imagine how the rest of the world must feel about this yankee terrorism.
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Too much.
Sometimes people can be a little too accurate for their own good.

The govt doesn't like people thinking, let alone taking notice of a game plan.
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I got it, the USA wants to start more wars and so they got the Israelis to fake the capture of several of their soldiers and also to fake the launching of rockets into israel.. Heck, the Israelis are probably faking suicide bombers, too. Bin Laden was a jew. It's all clear to me now. Leiberman and Cheney are sure crafty.

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Why do you jump into distortion anytime you feel like you have nothing intelligent to contribute with?
Where did I say or insinuate that Israel faked the kidnapping of its soldiers? I have noticed that you Bot on this forum whenever you want to counter you first carpet bomb then back pedal once you are “owned” and try to play it like you were misunderstood or something. I can cite many cases, let me know if you want me to bring them up.
My point is clear and I am not siding anyone other than my dismay for a missed opportunity for real peace in the Middle East by making sure that Lebanon becomes a model Arab state. Was there something wrong with that Bot? Should democracy be the realm of your choosing based on your dislike of Arabs? (Don’t tell me you don’t dislike them Bot, we know your stance). The bottom line you are reacting the way you did because you have a one sided view of how things should be, tell me it aint so bot, maybe I will believe you!

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Old 07-14-2006, 05:16 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Sometimes people can be a little too accurate for their own good.

The govt doesn't like people thinking, let alone taking notice of a game plan.
Should I expect a late night visit?
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